You've been harping about the death totals not increasing for weeks.Originally Posted by thethe
You've been harping about the death totals not increasing for weeks.
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7 day average is at pandemic lows.
Great news!
Carp (07-09-2020)
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- Need more testing due to the panic
- greater testing brings more cases
- more cases brings panic!
- need more testing due to the panic
Last edited by nsacpi; 07-08-2020 at 11:05 PM.
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Serbia Protests Meet Violent Response in Europe’s 1st Major Virus Unrest
Thousands of Serbs demonstrated for a second consecutive night on Wednesday in response to President Aleksandar Vucic’s management of the coronavirus crisis and wider concerns over the state of democracy in Serbia.
The protests were the first major pandemic-related unrest in Europe since the start of the crisis, and were met by a violent police response that some analysts said they had not witnessed in Serbia since the rule of Slobodan Milosevic, who governed Serbia during the 1990s.
Serbs first took to the streets on Tuesday, soon after Mr. Vucic announced that Belgrade would be placed under a new three-day lockdown following a second wave of confirmed coronavirus infections.
But the demonstrations quickly morphed into a wider expression of frustration at Mr. Vucic’s increasing control over policymaking and perceived mismanagement of Serbia’s pandemic response. The protests continued on Wednesday, even after Mr. Vucic suspended his decision to enforce a second shutdown.
Protesters said they were less angry about the re-implementation of the lockdown than the governmental missteps that had created the need for renewed restrictions in the first place. These included decisions to proceed with a general election last week and to restart large public sports events.
“We don’t mind staying home for another three days — that wasn’t the problem,” said Dragana Grncarski, 45, a fashion events manager who protested on both days.
“However, they’re playing with our minds and with the truth,” Ms. Grncarski added. “When it suits them to do elections, there is no corona. They organized football matches and tennis matches, and because of that we have a situation where the hospitals are full.”
After initially enforcing one of Europe’s strictest lockdowns in March, Mr. Vucic lifted social restrictions in early May, claiming his government had defeated the coronavirus.
But while other European countries eased their lockdowns gradually, Mr. Vucic opted for a faster process, soon allowing Serbs to gather by the tens of thousands without social distancing at sports matches and to crowd into reopened nightclubs.
“We went from one extreme to another,” said Jelena Vasiljevic, an expert on Balkan protest movements at the University of Belgrade.
Mr. Vucic initially refused to change course on the re-openings, even as the daily number of new cases rose from below 20 to above 300 and investigative news reports suggested that the toll could be even higher.
He pressed ahead with a controversial general election on June 21 that most opposition parties had long planned to boycott, saying they did not want to legitimize a process that they feel is gamed in Mr. Vucic’s favor.
And to Mr. Vucic’s critics, his decision first to ease restrictions ahead of a vote that was certain to increase his power — and then reinstate them soon after — felt like he was playing politics with public health.
“Citizens have been constantly deceived and lied to for political ends,” said Tena Prelec, an expert on politics in southeast Europe at the University of Oxford.
Analysts said the spontaneous nature of the protests reflected the lack of institutional means to express dissent.
Under Mr. Vucic, the quality of Serbian democracy has fallen from “free” to only “partly free,” according to Freedom House, an independent Washington-based watchdog that makes an annual assessment of each country’s political freedoms.
“The media and state institutions are completely consumed by one party,” said Dr. Vasiljevic.
On Tuesday night, some protesters briefly entered the Parliament building before being forced out by police.
Law enforcement officials were later filmed beating unarmed protesters with batons, in scenes that some analysts said mirrored police behavior during the rule of Mr. Milosevic, who led Serbia through the Balkan Wars and was later tried for war crimes in The Hague.
“The excessive use of force — we haven’t seen that since Milosevic in 1996 or 1997,” Dr. Vasiljevic said.
Mr. Vucic said police were right to respond with force.
“There were indications of foreign involvement, and some criminal faces were there, too,” Mr. Vucic said, speaking on Wednesday afternoon, before the second night of protests.
“The aim was to damage Serbia’s international image,” he added.
The protests could soon fizzle because of their leaderless nature, the lack of a clear goal and the strength of Mr. Vucic’s grip on Serbia, Dr. Vasiljevic said.
Similar mass demonstrations dissipated last year without forcing concessions from Mr. Vucic.
“This situation is a bit different,” said Dr. Vasiljevic. “But we still need to have some clear political articulations, and a clear political narrative.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/w...TB0Q49C_SIRSs0
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
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As coronavirus surges, Houston confronts its hidden toll: People dying at home
Houston is seeing a spike in residents dying at home, before paramedics can reach them. A growing number are testing positive for COVID-19.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-home-n1233151
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Re read what I wrote
Natural Immunity Croc
Once is one time too many.
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You clearly didn't read or understand the first time so I suggest you re read.
Natural Immunity Croc
Funny thing now is that when an individual takes multiple tests they count those each individually. Numbers could be inflated by at least 15/20%.
Natural Immunity Croc
great minds do think alike
1/100th time?...mathematical genius
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Carp (07-09-2020)
For those who want to understand how we could have saved tens of thousands of lives. Just wasn't in the interest of the democrats.
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Its puzzling to me how there isn't more outrage nationally about this. Do people understand what the results of these studies showed?
Natural Immunity Croc
Florida's positivity rate breaks 20% for the first time. Median age has been a bit higher the past four days. The big question for Florida and some of the other states is the extent to which the rise in infections among young people seeps out to older and more vulnerable parts of the population.
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Yeah, I'd anticipate the death numbers to start ticking back up (like they have the past 2 days).
For now at least the people dying will be younger. Even with very good measures to protect people in nursing homes, I don't see how this does not spread to older people. Among other things, many older people do not live in nursing homes. They live independently, have grandchildren and so forth. Some will be more careful than others. I know my in-laws have been dealing with boredom and feelings of isolation, and have been letting their guard down lately.
Last edited by nsacpi; 07-09-2020 at 10:04 AM.
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34% positivity rate in Arizona.
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Hope they have plenty of HCQ
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FDA has blood on their hands
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