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    You cant be this wrong in your models and not be questioned. How can smart guys like you think otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Is there a limit to how many times you guys can wrongly accuse something of being a right wing conspiracy?
    That is correct.

    Despite being wrong about every single major 'scandal' they just move to the next one.

    Hell, I just saw another Trumps Presidency is Over story this week. This is the 439th time, and this time it will stick

    (Trumps odds of reelection are at all time highs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Is there a limit to how many times you guys can wrongly accuse something of being a right wing conspiracy?
    Reminder, the guy who said this think Alex Jones and breitbart are a good source of information and honesty
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Reminder, the guy who said this think Alex Jones and breitbart are a good source of information and honesty
    Proven to be more reliable than the trash you rely on

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That is correct.

    Despite being wrong about every single major 'scandal' they just move to the next one.

    Hell, I just saw another Trumps Presidency is Over story this week. This is the 439th time, and this time it will stick

    (Trumps odds of reelection are at all time highs)
    Somehow there is support for this Schiff inquiry. Like this is anything other than a setup for impeachment after trump wins the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Reminder, the guy who said this think Alex Jones and breitbart are a good source of information and honesty
    Reminder this guy posted a Rachel Maddow clip just today lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    A more balanced approach would go against the infallible Dr. Fauci, and we've been assured this very thread how foolish that is
    No one is infallible but Fauci is right to be concerned that certain parts of the country are wasting precious time by not having policies in place to keep keep home. At this point the die is cast on the economy.

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    Grocery stores need to have a limit on how many people can be in at once.

    My supermarkets, it's packed like everyone's shopping for superbowl sunday.

    I've done my best to keep 6ft at the stores, but people just insist on standing closer to the cashier as if that's gonna make things go faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Reminder this guy posted a Rachel Maddow clip just today lol
    No I didn’t

    I shared a story from NATASHA BERTRAND, GABBY ORR, DANIEL LIPPMAN and NAHAL TOOSI that Rachel Maddie quoted and tweeted

    Had literally nothing to do with her or her showother than quoting someone else’s work

    Hell, it wasn’t even a clip.


    But bright side

    We have a nice recent pattern of you distorting the truth for your agenda
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Many Japanese people wear masks even during a normal flu/hay fever season. Anyone with a cold out in public is likely to feel social pressure to wear a mask, even if no one says anything. That's just what most people do. It wasn't a big jump for a majority to start wearing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    No I didn’t

    I shared a story from NATASHA BERTRAND, GABBY ORR, DANIEL LIPPMAN and NAHAL TOOSI that Rachel Maddie quoted and tweeted

    Had literally nothing to do with her or her showother than quoting someone else’s work

    Hell, it wasn’t even a clip.


    But bright side

    We have a nice recent pattern of you distorting the truth for your agenda
    This response is a great way to prove your point.

    She just shared it!

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Leading disease forecasters, whose research the White House used to conclude 100,000 to 240,000 people will die nationwide from the coronavirus, were mystified when they saw the administration’s projection this week.

    The experts said they don’t challenge the numbers’ validity but said they don’t know how the White House arrived at them.

    White House officials have refused to explain how they generated the figure — a death toll bigger than the United States suffered in the Vietnam War or the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. They have not provided the underlying data so others can assess its reliability or provided long-term strategies to lower that death count.

    Some of President Trump’s top advisers have expressed doubts about the estimate, according to three White House officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. There have been fierce debates inside the White House about its accuracy.

    At a task force meeting this week, according to two officials with direct knowledge of it, Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told others there are too many variables at play in the pandemic to make the models reliable: “I’ve looked at all the models. I’ve spent a lot of time on the models. They don’t tell you anything. You can’t really rely upon models.”

    Robert Redfield, director of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the vice president’s office have similarly voiced doubts about the projections’ accuracy, the three officials said.

    Jeffrey Shaman, a Columbia University epidemiologist whose models were cited by the White House, said his own work on the pandemic doesn’t go far enough into the future to make predictions akin to the White House fatality forecast.

    “We don’t have a sense of what’s going on in the here and now, and we don’t know what people will do in the future,” he said. “We don’t know if the virus is seasonal, as well.”

    The estimate appeared to be a rushed affair, said Marc Lipsitch, a leading epidemiologist and director of Harvard University’s Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics. “They contacted us, I think, on a Tuesday a week ago, and asked for answers and feedback by Thursday, basically 24 hours,” he said. “My initial response was we can’t do it that fast. But we ended up providing them some numbers responding to very specific scenarios.”

    Other experts noted that the White House didn’t even explain the time period the death estimate supposedly captures — just the coming few months, or the year-plus it will take to deploy a vaccine.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...aths-estimate/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Many Japanese people wear masks even during a normal flu/hay fever season. Anyone with a cold out in public is likely to feel social pressure to wear a mask, even if no one says anything. That's just what most people do. It wasn't a big jump for a majority to start wearing them.

    The CDC’s early guidance on masks was atrocious.

    Federal agencies across the board have failed people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    The CDC’s early guidance on masks was atrocious.

    Federal agencies across the board have failed people.
    I think some of their comments were because they didn't want citizens buying up all the masks and wanted to keep them for "front liners" and health care workers. That seems reasonable. It's not difficult to make yourself a mask. It may not be perfect, but will be way better than nothing.
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    Yes, finding out about an article from someone not associated with with the article or organization

    Is the exact same as getting info from Alex Jones

    Great point FB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Many Japanese people wear masks even during a normal flu/hay fever season. Anyone with a cold out in public is likely to feel social pressure to wear a mask, even if no one says anything. That's just what most people do. It wasn't a big jump for a majority to start wearing them.

    Then there's this:

    https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news...graph/3986051/
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    The CDC’s early guidance on masks was atrocious.

    Federal agencies across the board have failed people.
    Did you see how people hoarded toilet paper.

    If masks were recommended first... oh boy.
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    The epicenter of this crisis is in NYC.

    The leader of NYC was encouraging people to socialize a month ago.

    Yet somehow this is the cheetos fault



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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    The CDC’s early guidance on masks was atrocious.

    Federal agencies across the board have failed people.
    The western idea of individualism vs Eastern version of community

    Japan puts masks on to make sure you don’t get sick

    American put masks on to make sure they themselves don’t get sick
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    Did you see how people hoarded toilet paper.

    If masks were recommended first... oh boy.
    So the federal disease authority should lie to the American people to stave off a panic?

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