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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    the broad answer is externalities...everytime I fart everyone suffers...so if i can be induced to make a small change in my diet it will result in a socially optimal result
    What we have done is the furthest thing from a small change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What we have done is the furthest thing from a small change.
    With a pandemic the question becomes how well people internalize the risks they are exposing others to by say sitting down for a meal at a restaurant

    The answer generally is not very well...it is a form of market failure

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    With a pandemic the question becomes how well people internalize the risks they are exposing others to by say sitting down for a meal at a restaurant

    The answer generally is not very well...it is a form of market failure
    Anyone that is outside is accepting the risks of the virus.

    To me its just that easy.

    I don't want to criticize everyone for being an alarmist. Everyone has their own reasons. But don't push your alarmism on me where it impacts my everyday life and destroys the economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Anyone that is outside is accepting the risks of the virus.

    To me its just that easy.

    I don't want to criticize everyone for being an alarmist. Everyone has their own reasons. But don't push your alarmism on me where it impacts my everyday life and destroys the economy.
    The point about externalities is risk taking that is not internalized. It is the difference between risking say skin cancer which is not contagious and a contagious disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The point about externalities is risk taking that is not internalized. It is the difference between risking say skin cancer which is not contagious and a contagious disease.
    This risk tolerance of someone should not impact everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    #1 Trump isn't going to use any research so may as well sell it to the highest bidder. Isn't that the American way?

    #2 China needs U.S. research?

    #3 Research is secret?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    #1 Trump isn't going to use any research so may as well sell it to the highest bidder. Isn't that the American way?

    #2 China needs U.S. research?

    #3 Research is secret?
    1 - The true patriots would not sell to communists. Intellectuals have always hated America for what is stands for because of their superiority complexes (Meta).
    2 - The US has the brighest minds in the world. Everyone needs our research but China just needs a foothold to wash their money through our system.
    3 - No, but like everything the US does it best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    1 - The true patriots would not sell to communists. Intellectuals have always hated America for what is stands for because of their superiority complexes (Meta).
    2 - The US has the brighest minds in the world. Everyone needs our research but China just needs a foothold to wash their money through our system.
    3 - No, but like everything the US does it best.
    Meta is traitor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Meta is traitor?
    No - Just hates Murica.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    No - Just hates Murica.
    Makes me want to flay him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Makes me want to flay him.
    Yikes - Went from 0 to a billion real fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yikes - Went from 0 to a billion real fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Spain looks to have the lowest rate in the table Ginn referenced. I'm not really sure the data mean much. Practices regarding testing children probably varied widely by country and drove the data.
    This is the info we don't have.

    But common sense tells you children literally are super spreaders for virus/diseases. They don't wash their hands, they eat/drink after each other, they touch EVERYTHING including each other, and they are frequently putting their hands in their mouths, noses, eyes, and ears. For children not be some super spreader for COVID, it would literally go against everything we know about virus's and diseases in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    This is the info we don't have.

    But common sense tells you children literally are super spreaders for virus/diseases. They don't wash their hands, they eat/drink after each other, they touch EVERYTHING including each other, and they are frequently putting their hands in their mouths, noses, eyes, and ears. For children not be some super spreader for COVID, it would literally go against everything we know about virus's and diseases in general.
    The data suggest they are not superspreaders. It could be their immune systems keep the viral load low even when they are infected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    People are so ****ing stupid

    That's pretty damn funny actually. And inventive. Good for them. I'm sure they'll get some extra business because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The data suggest they are not superspreaders. It could be their immune systems keep the viral load low even when they are infected.
    Exactly - All studies done show the exact opposite. Thats why Europe has opened schools in most regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Exactly - All studies done show the exact opposite. Thats why Europe has opened schools in most regions.
    We should follow the data and they seem to point to a cost-benefit calculation in favor of opening schools.

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    To recap the latest shenanigans by our fearless leader:

    Spends months downplaying the risk of covid.

    After folks close to him catch it, panics and starts taking anti-malaria drugs preemptively.

    Regular people couldn't get this drug simply by asking for it.

    When asked why, his reasoning is, "I think it's good".

    This is the anti-intellectual we are relying on to lead us through this pandemic, and his complete and utter incompetence in all matters of life is why we still can't get folks tested at the required rates. Oh, and now Faux News is pointing out how stupid he is, and his drooling supporters have turned to calling them fake news as well. You can't make this stuff up haha.

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