The Coronavirus, not the beer

[thethe]

Worth reading this hospital exec's commentary... although doesnt support the fear porn sadly

Next few weeks will be quiet.

[sturg33]

The agenda is politics. Not public health.

[thethe]

Worth reading this hospital exec's commentary... although doesnt support the fear porn sadly

There will be no discussion on this. Just continuing anecdotal story time to guilt people into compliance.

[Carp]

Hospitalization rates have massively decreased. So will amount of deaths from what we saw 3 months ago.

Youndont need to wait for deaths. You can look at other items to know where this is headed.

In states that have seen huge spikes in new cases, hospitalization rates have spiked significantly. Hospitalization rates are down overall, because prior hot spots (NY, NJ, CT, MA, basically most of the NE area) which represented well over half the national cases and hospitalizations at one point) have seen their number of new cases decrease dramatically.

[Carp]

NY still having more deaths than those evil red states but that wont get reported.

Do you not understand how lag works?

[thethe]

In states that have seen huge spikes in new cases, hospitalization rates have spiked significantly. Hospitalization rates are down overall, because prior hot spots (NY, NJ, CT, MA, basically most of the NE area) which represented well over half the national cases and hospitalizations at one point) have seen their number of new cases decrease dramatically.

You're confusing hospitalization rates with total hospitalizations.

[Carp]

You're confusing hospitalization rates with total hospitalizations.

I'm talking about how many new covid hospitalizations we are seeing in the states in question. That's really the only number that matters in regards to an expected increase in deaths.

I assume you're talking about how many new cases end up needing to be hospitalized. Considering we're significantly more than we were a month or two ago, of course the number is going to be lower.

[thethe]

I'm talking about how many new covid hospitalizations we are seeing in the states in question. That's really the only number that matters in regards to an expected increase in deaths.

No it doesn't because for starters not all hospitalizations are equal and based on the rate of hospitalization you can forecast the cascading impact of spread and project overuse of hospitals.

Its completely different than what we saw in the north east when the average age of infected was mid 50s.

[thethe]

I assume you're talking about how many new cases end up needing to be hospitalized. Considering we're significantly more than we were a month or two ago, of course the number is going to be lower.

I do not know what you are trying to say here. From a rate basis much less people are requiring hospitalization and the average stay of someone going to the hospital is significantly shorter.

You are trying to use what happened in the north east to project what will happen to the south and leveraging the proxy of confirmed cases to do it.

Its just very bad modeling and it will end up being very wrong.

[nsacpi]

It is interesting to see this rise in hospitalizations of a younger cohort of people.

Yes, COVID-19 is a serious disease for younger people. The recovery rates are high. But we see that even young people need to go to the hospital for treatment in large numbers. A significant subset need intensive care. A quarter to a half of those hospitalized who recover have lingering long-term health issues of one kind or another.

Mask up peeps.

[thethe]

I think it is interesting to see this rise in hospitalizations of a younger cohort of people.

Yes, COVID-19 is a serious disease for younger people. The recovery rates are high. But we see that even young people need to go to the hospital for treatment in large numbers. A significant subset need intensive care. A quarter to a half of the people who recover have lingering long-term health issues of one kind or another.

The rise in hospitalization is due to awareness of the virus. Yiunger people are staying in hospitals that woild traditionally just stay in their own bed and hydrate. Thats why the hospital stays are averaging around 2-3 days. They are pointless for over 99% of the young people that are admitted.

[MrShwag]

If Biden wins you won't find a peep about any virus in the news. Fortunately it'll be four more years of china viruses.

[msstate7]

It is interesting to see this rise in hospitalizations of a younger cohort of people.

Yes, COVID-19 is a serious disease for younger people. The recovery rates are high. But we see that even young people need to go to the hospital for treatment in large numbers. A significant subset need intensive care. A quarter to a half of those hospitalized who recover have lingering long-term health issues of one kind or another.

Mask up peeps.

When I think of "long term" in medical terms, I think 6 months or more. Are you thinking the same or lesser? Just wondering how you could know long term yet.

[nsacpi]

When I think of "long term" in medical terms, I think 6 months or more. Are you thinking the same or lesser? Just wondering how you could know long term yet.

It runs the gamut. Strokes due to the blood clots caused by COVID-19 are obviously a serious long-term issue. Lung damage varies by severity, but some of it has been quite severe (young woman needed to have a double lung transplant). Some have had to go on dialysis.

[thethe]

It runs the gamut. Strokes due to the blood clots caused by COVID-19 are obviously a serious long-term issue. Lung damage varies by severity, but some of it has been quite severe (young woman needed to have a double lung transplant). Some have had to go on dialysis.

Define some.

[thethe]

If Biden wins you won't find a peep about any virus in the news. Fortunately it'll be four more years of china viruses.

Democrats practiced human sacrifice in the north east to hurt trump re election chances. Anyone else want to try and rationalize their nursing home policy?

[sturg33]

If Biden wins you won't find a peep about any virus in the news. Fortunately it'll be four more years of china viruses.

I think it's a safe bet that the lockdowns and virus will be old news as soon as the election is over.

It took a nice pause to allow the national riots

[thethe]

I think it's a safe bet that the lockdowns and virus will be old news as soon as the election is over.

It took a nice pause to allow the national riots

But all the mask promoters in this thread were OUTRAGED that people weren't practicing social distancing during the protests right?

[nsacpi]

deserves a bump

[sturg33]

Nsacpi >>>>> Elon Musk

Musk was silent on the germans, after all