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    When you look at its demographics, health system, etc...Sweden should have had a very good outcome. It has managed to have a bad outcome in spite of all its inherent strengths and advantages.
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    When you look at its demographics, health system, etc...Sweden should have had a very good outcome. It has managed to have a bad outcome in spite of all its inherent strengths and advantages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Didn't Norway leaders just say they wish they acted more like sweden?
    As with any country there is a range of opinion. Here is an interview with Frode Forland of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health.

    https://www.thelocal.no/20200520/int...ig-second-wave

    His point about asymptomatic transmission seems to have been lost on his Swedish colleagues.

    I think he is right though to take a humble view of things given the range of uncertainty.
    Last edited by nsacpi; 06-03-2020 at 12:17 PM.
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    Yet another public health official saying to protest after screaming to lock everyone down.

    Amazing isn't it? And these are the people that demand our trust?


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    Covid is dead.

    White supremacy was the disease the whole time.

    The health experts agree

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    Haven't heard much about the fact that the lancet study on HCQ was a complete farse.

    Where is our board scientist to comment? How about you Zito?
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    Honestly it's amazing that there were posters on this board who said "dont wanna get arrested? Dont go outside"

    Those same posters are mad the police are arresting people who are outside now

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Honestly it's amazing that there were posters on this board who said "dont wanna get arrested? Dont go outside"

    Those same posters are mad the police are arresting people who are outside now
    No one actually said that. In fact, I'm pretty sure everyone here encouraged you to go outside and go for a walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    No one actually said that. In fact, I'm pretty sure everyone here encouraged you to go outside and go for a walk.
    But not get a haircut though right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    No one actually said that. In fact, I'm pretty sure everyone here encouraged you to go outside and go for a walk.
    Dude I think you were the guy who said it.

    "Follow the rules, dont get arrested"

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    Coronavirus infections are increasing in Sweden, while the number of deaths and people treated at intensive care continue to fall, the Health Agency said on Thursday.

    Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said the increase in cases could not solely be explained by increased testing. Sweden has registered 41,883 cases in total.

    "Unfortunately, in Sweden, we can see an increase in cases again," he told a news conference, urging people not to ease up on social distancing.

    Tegnell said the increases in new cases was seen primarily in Western Sweden and among younger people than before.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other...hs/ar-BB151TEK

    I think we will see the overall IFR fall in Sweden (and elsewhere) as better measures are taken to test and quarantine the people who work with older people. That's sort of low hanging fruit that in retrospect feels like a big failure in many places.

    "Cases among the really old have declined quite rapidly. It shows the measures taken have had an effect," he said. "There's reason to believe the decline in deaths will continue."

    Tegnell's warning not to ease up on social distancing is apt, and not just for Sweden.

    It will be interesting to see what effects all the demonstrations have. It is a subtle situation. Demonstrating outdoors might not be a big deal. But people take transportation (and I presume often not alone) to get to the demonstrations. And I think the demonstrations undermine the general concept of social distancing. So even in contexts that have no connection to the demonstrations (indoors and outdoors) people's behavior with respect to social distancing and wearing masks could change quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Dude I think you were the guy who said it.

    "Follow the rules, dont get arrested"
    Dude, no one actually told you to not go outside, which is what you said.

    As far as people disobeying lockdown orders and being otherwise unruly, absolutely I was on board with that, though I don't recall that I ever supported arresting peaceful protestors. In regards to the recent protesting among the BLM, I haven't really addressed it, aside from my post yesterday where I said I had mixed emotions about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Coronavirus infections are increasing in Sweden, while the number of deaths and people treated at intensive care continue to fall, the Health Agency said on Thursday.

    Chief Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said the increase in cases could not solely be explained by increased testing. Sweden has registered 41,883 cases in total.

    "Unfortunately, in Sweden, we can see an increase in cases again," he told a news conference, urging people not to ease up on social distancing.

    Tegnell said the increases in new cases was seen primarily in Western Sweden and among younger people than before.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other...hs/ar-BB151TEK

    I think we will see the overall IFR fall in Sweden (and elsewhere) as better measures are taken to test and quarantine the people who work with older people. That's sort of low hanging fruit that in retrospect feels like a big failure in many places.

    "Cases among the really old have declined quite rapidly. It shows the measures taken have had an effect," he said. "There's reason to believe the decline in deaths will continue."
    It appears the large reported tests from yesterday were additional positive lab tests over a few weeks that hadn't been recorded, which is both good and bad news. It's REALLY good that there wasn't a massive 1 day spike in new cases, but their recent numbers don't look as promising when you consider the amount of positives they were missing.

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    But deaths and hospitalizations continue to fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    But not get a haircut though right?
    As long as you and the barber chant 'black lives matter' throughout the cut, I think you should be fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    As long as you and the barber chant 'black lives matter' throughout the cut, I think you should be fine
    Start a fire outside for good measure.
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