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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I dont think they took him as a RP reading up on what some people who cover the team are saying.
    yeah but have you considered how many scouting reports i read for free online?
    look i’ve been wrong over and over on player eval but will that stop me from making a snap judgement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Considering most teams have you thinking their first rounder is the next unanimous HOF choice, this seems like faint praise.
    If this is what they were looking for, what does that say about what they think of Muller or Davidson (who both have better stuff)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Problem is he has so many failure points. If the control improvement isn't real, he's a career minor leaguer. If the breaking ball doesn't develop he's a middle reliever. If the velocity goes back down he probably busts.

    He has to hit on every single one and if he does, the upside is a middle of the rotation starter.

    Seems like a high risk low reward player.
    it is amazing how simplistic you think this all is.
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    Trackman tweeted that Shuster’s slider ranked in the top 25 in average drop among 2020 prospect. Gives me hope. https://twitter.com/trackmanbb/statu...203281408?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Unfortunately the one you're describing was a HS kid.

    Has been a while since Winston Salem was a cold weather area.
    He's from Massachusetts, and played HS there; so, if you buy it takes those sorts of kids longer to develop, it's no surprise he was just turning a corner at Wake.

    Of course, he's older now than when Mike Soroka started his rookie season, and that dude grew up in Calgary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    If this is what they were looking for, what does that say about what they think of Muller or Davidson (who both have better stuff)?
    like, what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    I'm so tired of taking guys who project as middle of the rotation starters at best.
    I mean unless you're picking top 10ish, you aren't getting anyone projected to be a TOR starter. Soroka was projected as a No. 3 starter when he was drafted.

    If there any year to complain about draft picks, this isn't the year. It's way more of shot in the dark than normal. At least Shuster had some helium this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Gilmartin all over again.
    Sounds more like Alex Wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Problem is he has so many failure points. If the control improvement isn't real, he's a career minor leaguer. If the breaking ball doesn't develop he's a middle reliever. If the velocity goes back down he probably busts.

    He has to hit on every single one and if he does, the upside is a middle of the rotation starter.

    Seems like a high risk low reward player.
    That's the thing for me - the chances of getting an "impact player" at #25 are incredibly slim to begin with, but if you take someone with fringy tools there's no chance you get one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    yeah but have you considered how many scouting reports i read for free online?
    look i’ve been wrong over and over on player eval but will that stop me from making a snap judgement?
    I dont love the pick but this isnt a Gilmartin pick. He has way better stuff than he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    That's the thing for me - the chances of getting an "impact player" at #25 are incredibly slim to begin with, but if you take someone with fringy tools there's no chance you get one.
    So basically you'll complain just to complain, makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I mean unless you're picking top 10ish, you aren't getting anyone projected to be a TOR starter. Soroka was projected as a No. 3 starter when he was drafted.

    If there any year to complain about draft picks, this isn't the year. It's way more of shot in the dark than normal. At least Shuster had some helium this year.
    This is the year to avoid helium. Season got cancelled so early that there's so little that can be read from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Problem is he has so many failure points. If the control improvement isn't real, he's a career minor leaguer. If the breaking ball doesn't develop he's a middle reliever. If the velocity goes back down he probably busts.

    He has to hit on every single one and if he does, the upside is a middle of the rotation starter.

    Seems like a high risk low reward player.
    I'd say Shuster seems like a high-risk, moderate-reward player. But I also don't think, given his profile, that the Braves selected him thinking he's a likely reliever—which was the contention of some.

    I'm also hoping he's a player they've been tracking, and have seen things the media experts and draft publications haven't. The absurd whiff% he gets on his changeup, plus some of the data on the raw material of his slider, makes me think the Braves feel he could be successful even if he's more 92-94 than 95-97.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    He's from Massachusetts, and played HS there; so, if you buy it takes those sorts of kids longer to develop, it's no surprise he was just turning a corner at Wake.

    Of course, he's older now than when Mike Soroka started his rookie season, and that dude grew up in Calgary.
    It's taken him four years away from cold weather to turn into what he has so far - how much longer might it take him to be something to get excited about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Well, the Braves don't think he's a reliever for one... Kiley had him at 31... its a reach and its not exciting, but depending on how the rest of the draft goes, it could easily still be a solid pick.
    If Law and McDaniel both had him 31 or lower and Callis had him in the same range, it's not necessarily a reach.

    It's very Braves-y.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Trackman tweeted that Shuster’s slider ranked in the top 25 in average drop among 2020 prospect. Gives me hope. https://twitter.com/trackmanbb/statu...203281408?s=21
    So we got the 25th best slider with the #25 pick in the draft? Can't imagine what wonders to expect at #96.
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