The " woke mob"
The " woke mob"
I would be careful about the apportionment of blame for the death of those children.
And Arthur Harris had to make do with the technology at his disposal. No smart bombs, etc.
The point remains when a population enthusiastically backs a horrific cause, the moral calculus changes a bit.
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"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
I disagree. Non-Combatants living in their homes, working in the corner bakery, taking their kids to school, etc. should not be targeted and any reasonable step should be taken to avoid their death. I don't care if they're waving flags supporting the devil himself. They're not valid targets.
Harris wasn't working with smart bombs. However, he also didn't really take any steps to confine the destruction to valid targets in Dresden. Even the technology of that period could have accomplished the goals of destroying their targets with a fraction of the loss of civilian life.
I've always found unnecessary monuments to be silly. Personally. I know lots of people like them, but I prefer a good old fashioned plaque or sign.
I don't really understand the need for a Lee Statue in Richmond, he wasn't born there, he didn't die there. It would be like putting a statue of US Grant in Columbus, Ohio, a place he had no real connection to.
Also wasn't Lee against monuments to the Confederacy?
To me this whole thing is silly. I think most people should quite easily be able to tell the difference between Daughters of the Confederacy bought cheap statues and real monuments. Personally I consider people who carry the Traitor flag to be more abhorent then the statues the erected. At least a statue is a tale from a point in life, continuing to show the Traitor flag is a continued act of aggression.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
get those participation trophy loser traitor statues out of the public area
that mostly were put up during the civil rights time anyway as a reminder to black people
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Runnin (06-10-2020)
I wonder if Seattle will take down their Vladimir Lenin statue?
Nah of course they wont
You do know that the statue is for sale right? Like if you want that Statue gone from Washington and destroy it you can spend 250K to buy it from the owners. Ironic that Jack Posobiec instituted a protest to remove the statue without considering just starting a GoFundMe to buy the statue and remove it. It's private artwork on private property.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
goldfly (06-10-2020)
what's wrong with Lenin
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
oh shocker
freedom boy brings an irrelevant and bad example to the debate
instead of just being on the right side of doing something
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Definitely not as bad as Thomas Jefferson
I mean it depends on your definition of bad. If you're more into continual human suffering Jefferson is up there. Anyone who owned slaves is up there. As they took someone's life from them as well. So fi I said Thomas Jefferson murdered over 600 people that would make him sound really bad right?
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
History shows that this always a sign that things are about to get better
Doesnt matter. The cause is just
Nascar banning the confederate flag isn't going to sit well.
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