My thought was they sre looking to change clientele by changing image.
57Brave (06-11-2020)
Colombus was a monster
and he certainly didn't discover ****
he epically failed at what he set out to accomplish
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
David Silkenat
@davidsilkenat
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Maybe putting people on pedestals wasn't a good idea in the first place.
Just more militaristic/nationalistic/xenophobic nonsense
In the south of France there is a statue Julius Ceaser had erected to honor his grandson.
never understood the purpose.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Amanda Mull
@amandamull
if there's any lesson of this year it should be that all of the stuff those
in power said was so *tricky*—from letting people have a beer in public
to admitting that the Confederate flag is indeed racist—could have been
done in like 10 seconds ages ago
if they had felt like it
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
I think there should probably be a place for a statue of Robert E. Lee and even Jefferson Davis, but only one of each.
FFF - BB, BB, 2B, HR, 2B, HR, 1B, BB, BB, 1B, BB, BB, HR
I could get behind a statue of Davis dressed in drag to commemorate his attempt to flee capture.
"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.
Runnin (06-14-2020)
That's actually a myth. He was wearing an overcoat and has his wife's shaw wrapped over his head. He was in poor health and his wife gave him her shaw to keep the weather off.
The myth of him dressing as a woman to avoid capture was encouraged by the North in spite of it not being true.
All the more reason to make it a statue.
"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
Little Thethe Nov 19, 2020.
Last edited by 57Brave; 06-13-2020 at 02:25 PM.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Your post displays a huge problem on the left. The reflex to automatically condemn any break from liberal orthodoxy as racist, sexist, or some other -ist. You have no clue what my stance is and you're already ready to swing the racism axe.
My point is that a flag is nothing more than colored threads arranged in a pattern. I think we too often focus on the meaningless, symbolic fights like arguing a flag should go rather than trying to combat the meaning it is being assigned.
These fights are engaged in because they're easy, not because they're important.
Imagine you see someone looking for their keys on the ground under a street light. You ask them where they dropped them and they say they dropped them on the other side of the street. You ask him why he's looking under the light and he says "the light's better".
That's what these fights over things like flags are. They don't accomplish anything in the fight against racism (I'd argue they just inflame the situation) but it's far easier to get wins than in the fight against racism.
Change people's minds and these symbols will fade on their own.
I also try to not be so quick to prejudge someone as racist. Ive known people who fly the rebel flag because they had ancestors who fought in the war, I've known people who fly it because they don't like the government, and I've known people who fly it as part of their racism. I generally dismiss the flag as a poor indicator of anything.
acesfull86 (06-14-2020)
I hope the day antifa shows up at the Alamo, the live stream will be carried on PPV. It won’t be a pretty day for the water bottle throwing graffiti artists.
57Brave (06-14-2020)
you lost me at "the left"
never the less and the glutton for punishment I am:
2) you seem to attach a lot of importance to CW history and lore and the symbolism therein.
So if it is nothing more than thread and cloth, why would you attach enough importance to form an opinion other than, " flag is nothing more than colored threads arranged in a pattern. I think we too often focus on the meaningless, symbolic fights like arguing a flag should go rather than trying to combat the meaning it is being assigned."
3) easy ? Hmm, if it was easy the giant flags displayed for no other reason than to taunt people of color wouldn't exist
4) we are 150+ years from re construction. Me thinks in your analogy, the street light has faded and we are living in the noon day sun. And, the keys are still lost
5) Ever been to Europe ? Interesting place for history
6) Change their minds ? I believe that is what we are witnessing.
7) I didn't label anyone racist. I believe we are all to a degree racist.
Interesting you took out of that me labeling you racist.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
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