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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    The explosion has been since 1970.

    Do you think we have gotten more racist since then?
    No, but I don’t think we’ve done enough to break the cycle, particularly in education and the legal system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    But these facts didn’t debunk anything. It just assumed a different cause without any providing any additional reason why.
    I think growing up with a father is the greatest correlator of success a child can have. The data supports this.

    Black kids have seen an explosion in fatherless childhoods over last 40 years

    Leftists are actively discouraging the nuclear family as a construct of white supremacy

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    But these facts didn’t debunk anything. It just assumed a different cause without any providing any additional reason why.
    Trying to 'find' a reason is just excusing what is happening.

    Its just a bit coincidental that we haven't 'found' it yet and therefore addressed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Trying to 'find' a reason is just excusing what is happening.

    Its just a bit coincidental that we haven't 'found' it yet and therefore addressed it.
    My argument is that we have found the reason, and are just willfully ignoring it because it would cost additional money to resolve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    No, but a system that inadequately resolves decades—and centuries—old oppression is. The statistics ultimately stem from that rather than racial differences.
    It's been basically two generations of voters since the Civil Rights era. For black Americans, essentially one of those generations grew up without fathers. That data point can be more easily linked to poverty, crime, and imprisonment than race can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    My argument is that we have found the reason, and are just willfully ignoring it because it would cost additional money to resolve.
    Oooh walk us through what needs to happen and what problem is will solve

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    My argument is that we have found the reason, and are just willfully ignoring it because it would cost additional money to resolve.
    I'm just wondering if you could explain to me how racism is the issue without mentioning economic means and poor decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Oooh walk us through what needs to happen and what problem is will solve
    To start, I’d stop the practice of property taxes directly funding local schools and instead create a system where K-12 public education is funded equally across the board by each state or even the federal government. Fixing the education system would do more to create opportunity than anything else we can do, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    To start, I’d stop the practice of property taxes directly funding local schools and instead create a system where K-12 public education is funded equally across the board by each state or even the federal government. Fixing the education system would do more to create opportunity than anything else we can do, in my opinion.
    You want to nationalize education in order to tackle racism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You want to nationalize education in order to tackle racism?
    To tackle education inequality, sure. This would help many students of all races, but would be a step toward combatting racism since there’s still a natural segregation in many cities due to previous explicitly racist policies.

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    Hahahahahaha OK then we can move on

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Hahahahahaha OK then we can move on
    Happy to hear how you’d propose addressing the fact that schools in lower income communities get funded at such a lower rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mqt View Post
    Happy to hear how you’d propose addressing the fact that schools in lower income communities get funded at such a lower rate.
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    I’m not necessarily against school of choice, but what are the guardrails in place if the poorer parents cannot afford to compete with the richer ones? If those answers are sufficiently answered, I can get on board with it. My biggest worry when it comes to these questions is what happens at the bottom of the barrel, so to speak. If there was a system in place to ensure the schools were all funded to such an extent that no students were subject to the current system’s failings, then I’d be in. I don’t care if a solution is public or private if it’s fully equitable.

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    All the education inequalities and lack of funding happen in poor white school districts and schools too. It has nothing to do with race.

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    The problem isnt funding. Have you ever heard a government agency say its funded just fine? School is so expensive because its primary function is being a daycare. We could really just end high schools all together and not lose much the only problem is then the streets would be full of teenagers and they get into trouble. They need to tear the whole thing down and start over from scratch. Start kids in school/daycare earlier. It can start as a daycare but transition into education. The early years are where you can really set a child up for success. We need to seperate the girls and boys in school. They learn differently. They should use games to teach kids. I feel like its a fact that kids that grow up playing video games are smarter. Even games that arent specifically education related it can be educational just based on learning problem solving and critical thinking. I think we could finish with grade school around age 15-16. Some kids could go to a community college for 2 years and the best could go straight to a college. College also needs to be streamlined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You’re a sick individual

    Tamil rice was a 12 year old with a toy

    And even if it was a gun, it’s an open carry state

    If you watch the video of that cop arriving and firing within seconds of getting there and still support all of that happened

    I mean, you’re just a lost human that has no real code to live by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    You’re a sick individual

    Tamil rice was a 12 year old with a toy

    And even if it was a gun, it’s an open carry state

    If you watch the video of that cop arriving and firing within seconds of getting there and still support all of that happened

    I mean, you’re just a lost human that has no real code to live by.
    You don't understand the point of why I said that. That typical.

    The idea that black people get shot while white people walk "look at what happened to Tamir Rice" is what is bandied about by idiots like yourself.

    Its a lie like all your other poison.
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