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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    Yes, but that doesn't answer my question. Why was he having trouble breathing before the altercation and why didn't the doctor mention that?
    I guess no one thought it was relevant. When did he say I can't breathe. I remember him saying he was claustrophobic when they were trying to get him in the car. I don't remember him saying I cant breathe until he was on the ground. Maybe covid killed him. His defense attorney is suggesting all sorts of possibilities. Why not covid. A lot of people have suffered damage to their lungs from covid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I guess no one thought it was relevant. When did he say I can't breathe. I remember him saying he was claustrophobic when they were trying to get him in the car.
    How in the world is that not relevant? Yes, it's in one of the videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    If Floyd's respiratory rate was fine why was Floyd complaining about not being able to breathe even before the altercation started?
    He was having a panic attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    He was having a panic attack.
    According to whom? No mention of a panic attack. https://www.fox9.com/news/transcript...ing-restrained

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    "Floyd tells the officers several times that he cannot breathe and says he wants to lay on the ground. Prior to getting Floyd to the ground, he says he cannot breathe multiple times."

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    "The preliminary findings in the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's autopsy of Floyd "revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."

    https://www.newsweek.com/george-floy...r-says-1507608

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Dr Tobin's testimony explained how the combination of being cuffed, pushed against the pavement and being knelt on affected his ability to breathe.

    He must feel like a fool having to say something so obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    How in the world is that not relevant? Yes, it's in one of the videos.
    Maybe his defense attorney is not doing a good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    "The preliminary findings in the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's autopsy of Floyd "revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation."

    https://www.newsweek.com/george-floy...r-says-1507608
    Except the autopsy said it. I've posted it twice in the last 2 days, not doing it again, do the minimum amount of research please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    According to whom? No mention of a panic attack. https://www.fox9.com/news/transcript...ing-restrained
    Watch how he was acting, complaining about being claustrophobic, crying, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Watch how he was acting, complaining about being claustrophobic, crying, etc.
    Anxiety attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Watch how he was acting, complaining about being claustrophobic, crying, etc.
    Which doesn't mean he was having a panic attack. No way to prove it. However, he did have a high dose of drugs in his system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Except the autopsy said it. I've posted it twice in the last 2 days, not doing it again, do the minimum amount of research please.
    According to an article I read the first(preliminary) autopsy had all his internal organs intact and the vessels in his body were not already cut up. That one says no asphyxiation. Further autopsies were done with a more mutilated body. Which one do I believe especially with public opinion in the case? Doing a 180 on this is suspicious as hell. I'm willing to believe the first.

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    This was from the preliminary autopsy. Read this and explain to me how all of this changed in subsequent autopsies?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    This was from the preliminary autopsy. Read this and explain to me how all of this changed in subsequent autopsies?

    You may as well give it up. They’re just going to argue whatever point fits thier narrative and they’ll never concede that they are/were wrong.
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    Totally just believe the whole justice system when they make a report lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    This was from the preliminary autopsy. Read this and explain to me how all of this changed in subsequent autopsies?

    Here, since you won't do even the tiniest amount of research and are just trying to prove your point.

    What that is talking about is he didn't have a broken neck, he wasn't beaten within an inch of his life, etc. You ignored the first part which mentions

    https://www.fox9.com/news/hennepin-c...death-homicide

    The updated report states that on May 25, George Floyd experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by law enforcement officer(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Here, since you won't do even the tiniest amount of research and are just trying to prove your point.

    What that is talking about is he didn't have a broken neck, he wasn't beaten within an inch of his life, etc. You ignored the first part which mentions

    https://www.fox9.com/news/hennepin-c...death-homicide

    The updated report states that on May 25, George Floyd experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by law enforcement officer(s).
    If you did any research you would know the county did two different autopsies done with two different results. The first(preliminary) one was the one above that was posted where there was nothing found wrong. The first one makes it clear there was no occult injury to the neck, shoulders, etc.. That is in black and white. Read it.

    There was an additional autopsy (Updated report) done by the county where everything was changed and now ruled a homicide.

    How does an autopsy go from showing absolutely no physical trauma on the body on the preliminary to homicide on the follow up? If he was given enough pressure on his neck for him to go into cardiopulmonary pressure there would be noticeable trauma to the neck and back. It's never mentioned in the preliminary.
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    The defense will put up their own experts saying Floyd died of a drug overdose. It comes down to who you believe which is probably influenced by what you're predisposed to believe.

    I remind everyone that the standard is beyond a reasonable doubt. It's not what is most likely true. The prosecution must disprove any reasonable alternatives. That's a tall burden here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garmel View Post
    This was from the preliminary autopsy. Read this and explain to me how all of this changed in subsequent autopsies?

    Except for being choked to death. lol
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