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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    While goldy incessantly focuses on random crazies...

    I'll keep showing how our institutions are crumbling in the name of wokeness

    It's too absurd to make fun of, it mocks itself more effectively than I could.

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    They just keep outdoing themselves


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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    They just keep outdoing themselves

    That predominantly helps whites people.
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    I would be all kinds of pissed if they cancelled student loan debts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    They just keep outdoing themselves

    Lawd, that there is a doozy
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    “Things were bad for me, so they should stay bad for everyone else” is not a good argument against debt cancellation - student, medical, or otherwise.
    #CancelStudentDebt
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    “Things were bad for me, so they should stay bad for everyone else” is not a good argument against debt cancellation - student, medical, or otherwise.
    #CancelStudentDebt
    People taking responsibility for their own decisions is the only justification needed for not canceling debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    “Things were bad for me, so they should stay bad for everyone else” is not a good argument against debt cancellation - student, medical, or otherwise.
    #CancelStudentDebt
    Agreed bail out the privileged white folks at the expense of poor people who couldn't afford college.

    I'm happy to walk you through the idiocy of canceling student debt and it has nothing to do with making people keep suffering or whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Agreed bail out the privileged white folks at the expense of poor people who couldn't afford college.

    I'm happy to walk you through the idiocy of canceling student debt and it has nothing to do with making people keep suffering or whatever
    Between this and removing the SALT deduction ceiling are the democrats now the party of the rich?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Between this and removing the SALT deduction ceiling are the democrats now the party of the rich?
    yes, that's why they fight to give those struggling billionaires tax breaks
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Between this and removing the SALT deduction ceiling are the democrats now the party of the rich?
    Is Joe gonna remove the SALT cap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Between this and removing the SALT deduction ceiling are the democrats now the party of the rich?
    Essentially, yes. You can already point to the Kochs' defection as a sign that the Chamber of Commerce era of the Pub party is dead. Obama's top poll and data guy spent some time on it recently as well:

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...terview-436334

    “The joke is that the GOP is really assembling the multiracial working-class coalition that the left has always dreamed of,” says David Shor, a Democratic polling and data expert who developed the Obama 2012 campaign’s internal election-forecasting system.

    Trump, whose approval rating was historically low throughout his tenure as president, increased his support among Black men and Hispanic voters in key swing states, while maintaining his hold on white non-college educated voters. Democrats’ House majority shrank, thanks in part to losses in the suburbs, and split-ticket voting all but disappeared, dooming Democratic Senate candidates in rural, Trump-friendly states. And even while President-Elect Joe Biden is on track to win a higher share of the national popular vote than anyone challenging an incumbent president since Franklin D. Roosevelt, the future for Democrats now looks, well, bleak.
    ...
    If you think mechanically about the reinforcing currents that caused this, as college-educated white people enter the Democratic Party and become an increasingly large share of the Democratic Party while the reverse happens to Republicans, that naturally is going to influence who wins party primaries and what kind of people win internal party fights. In practice — given the fact that college-educated whites donate at disproportionate rates and volunteer at disproportionate rates — I think it’s going to be very hard for Democrats to resist the pull of catering to their preferences, which is naturally going to lead to losing votes among people who aren’t them: not just non-college educated whites, but, as we as we saw this cycle, also non-white voters.
    ...
    There is a broader trend, though, that as college-educated white people become a larger share of the Democratic coalition and a larger share of the Democratic voice, they do pull the party on cultural issues. Non-college educated white people have more culturally in common with working-class Black and working-class Hispanic voters. So, it should be unsurprising that as the cultural power of college-educated white people increases in the Democratic Party, non-white voters will move against us.
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    not only did they paint Georgia as a blue state, they misspelled----- hold on !!!!
    Georgia

    yeah, only way they stumble onto 70M votes is if ...
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    Obviously it is


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    Um, why is the Chicago Tribute posting stories by the Seattle Times? I wish you would link the article instead of a picture of an article title
    "Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.

    It’s over."


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Um, why is the Chicago Tribute posting stories by the Seattle Times? I wish you would link the article instead of a picture of an article title
    no fun in that

    why actually find out what the person was saying instead of just judging from a headline?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    They just keep outdoing themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Essentially, yes. You can already point to the Kochs' defection as a sign that the Chamber of Commerce era of the Pub party is dead. Obama's top poll and data guy spent some time on it recently as well:

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...terview-436334

    “The joke is that the GOP is really assembling the multiracial working-class coalition that the left has always dreamed of,” says David Shor, a Democratic polling and data expert who developed the Obama 2012 campaign’s internal election-forecasting system.

    Trump, whose approval rating was historically low throughout his tenure as president, increased his support among Black men and Hispanic voters in key swing states, while maintaining his hold on white non-college educated voters. Democrats’ House majority shrank, thanks in part to losses in the suburbs, and split-ticket voting all but disappeared, dooming Democratic Senate candidates in rural, Trump-friendly states. And even while President-Elect Joe Biden is on track to win a higher share of the national popular vote than anyone challenging an incumbent president since Franklin D. Roosevelt, the future for Democrats now looks, well, bleak.
    ...
    If you think mechanically about the reinforcing currents that caused this, as college-educated white people enter the Democratic Party and become an increasingly large share of the Democratic Party while the reverse happens to Republicans, that naturally is going to influence who wins party primaries and what kind of people win internal party fights. In practice — given the fact that college-educated whites donate at disproportionate rates and volunteer at disproportionate rates — I think it’s going to be very hard for Democrats to resist the pull of catering to their preferences, which is naturally going to lead to losing votes among people who aren’t them: not just non-college educated whites, but, as we as we saw this cycle, also non-white voters.
    ...
    There is a broader trend, though, that as college-educated white people become a larger share of the Democratic coalition and a larger share of the Democratic voice, they do pull the party on cultural issues. Non-college educated white people have more culturally in common with working-class Black and working-class Hispanic voters. So, it should be unsurprising that as the cultural power of college-educated white people increases in the Democratic Party, non-white voters will move against us.
    Going to be fun watching 57 trip over himself supporting the Koch brothers in the future.

    Republican Party of old is dead and will never return. We are now the party of working class Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    One is letting all Americans keep more of what they earn.

    The other is bailing out college graduates who agreed to take money to put themselves ahead of poor people who can't afford college degrees. It does quite literally nothing to solve the actual issue... in fact it simply puts gas on the college tuition fire.

    But you are actually too stupid to understand this

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