Last edited by Enscheff; 09-22-2020 at 06:32 PM.
jpx7 (09-23-2020)
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
While both take starting position of the fielder into account, things like arm strength and batter run speed matter much more for IFers than they do for OFers. Just getting to a grounder means a lot less for an IFer than getting to a fly ball means to an OFer.
Unless I'm mistaken (I haven't kept up on IF defensive metrics as much as I should), IF defensive plays would have to be rated based on IFer starting position, batted ball speed, batted ball position, throw accuracy, and speed of the runner. I don't think they are that sophisticated yet, but there's really no reason they couldn't be since all that data should be available from the radar tracking system (throw accuracy to 1st base is captured by trackman? No idea...).
On the other hand, OF defense is measured by starting position, hang time, and end position. Trivial to compute and compare against other similar fly balls over the large sample set, and is why OF defensive statcast metrics came out almost immediately. Remember route efficiency?
Definitely something worth looking into some more.
jpx7 (09-24-2020)
From when they introduced it for infielders
The short version is that there are four primary items that affect the chance of a play being converted into an out:
• How far the fielder has to go to reach the ball ("the intercept point")
• How much time he has to get there
• How far he then is from the base the runner is heading to
• On force plays, how fast the batter is, on average
jpx7 (09-24-2020)
Then in that case they are probably more accurate than I gave them credit for being.
Lewis ends the year with an .800 OPS. Really slumped with a .572 OPS over the second half of the season. I'm not putting a lot of stock in 2020 stats. Pretty much every player has a stretch where things don't go right and with only 60 games, there's not much time for a rebound depending on when a player's trough hit. It's one of the reasons I'm skeptical about Duvall.
PawPawMaxwell (09-27-2020)
That little hot streak and the 3 homer game put Duvall in everyone's radar. Interesting point to me is that Riley and Duvall have almost exactly same measurable offense except for the 8 home run differential.
I'm confident AA understands exactly what Duvall and Riley are at this point, just like he knew exactly what Camargo was while folks were calling to "give him a chance".
I'm not confident he will have the resources to do anything about it for 2021.
clvclv (09-29-2020)
I want inflated Duvall Hr/FB rate for about 15 more games.
Coppy
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
huh?
who spoke in absolutes?
you said "when people wanted to give him a chance, it's when the Braves weren't as close to legitimately contending." unless you believe heading into last year the Braves weren't legit contending, then your statement is flat wrong. unless you believe the Braves didn't head into this year as legit contenders, your statement is wrong.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg