2020 Trade Deadline Thread

[Horsehide Harry]

We got a week - August 31.

Things that are clear for the Braves: Pen = good, Offense = OK but could be great with a 3B fix and health for some guys. SP = horrendous

No one knows how teams will value the season much less trade pieces.

My guess (only that) is that nothing much happens. The strongest teams look pretty complete at this point and ownership knows that they could get a pass if they do nothing. Moving the future into this year looks a little useless at this point.

However, IF you have a team willing to take dollars, a bargain might happen. Knowing corporate ownership like I do, I think there's a possibility that Liberty might green light moves that legitimately put the earnings in the red this year to write down their taxes. Who knows for sure.

I'll start the speculation and throw out a blockbuster that probably won't happen:

Atlanta gets: Xander Bogaerts for 3B and Nate Eovaldi as a SP and Martin Perez as a SP. Braves take all the money.

Boston gets: Camargo, Shewmake, Wright and Wilson.

Boston moves dollars, especially Eovaldi and adds some young talent.

Braves get two SP arms Perez at $6.5M in 21 or a 500K buyout, Eovaldi at $17M per in 21 and 22. Bogaerts at $20M per through 25 with a 26 option. Bogaerts isn't a great defensive SS but should be better at 3B where he's played before. He's from Aruba so should fit well with Acuna and Albies and age along with those contracts. Eovaldi is chancey, might be gold might be pyrite. But he's better than any guy not named Fried on the current staff.

The Braves have to make the money work in 20. Outside of that it shouldn't be a big problem.

I don't know that either team would do it. But I like it's looks.

[Enscheff]

Who can compile a list of durable SPs on losing teams under control for this year, or this year plus next year? The SPs AA trades for will likely come from that list.

[clvclv]

Who can compile a list of durable SPs on losing teams under control for this year, or this year plus next year? The SPs AA trades for will likely come from that list.

Lance Lynn
Mike Minor
Dylan Bundy
Nathan Eovaldi
Robbie Ray
Alex Cobb
Marco Gonzales
Taijuan Walker
Derek Holland
Joe Musgrove

[UNCBlue012]

Lance Lynn
Mike Minor
Dylan Bundy
Nathan Eovaldi
Robbie Ray
Alex Cobb
Marco Gonzales
Taijuan Walker
Derek Holland
Joe Musgrove

Give me Dylan Bundy.

[NYCBrave]

Lance Lynn
Mike Minor
Dylan Bundy
Nathan Eovaldi
Robbie Ray
Alex Cobb
Marco Gonzales
Taijuan Walker
Derek Holland
Joe Musgrove

These guys might help us win the division, not sure how much any of these move the needle as far playoffs though. Which would you want starting a game? Have to consider that when deciding how much to give up.

[clvclv]

These guys might help us win the division, not sure how much any of these move the needle as far playoffs though. Which would you want starting a game? Have to consider that when deciding how much to give up.

That's the point 50 was making, and I agreed with - not something you'd be overly excited about.

If Texas or Cleveland are going to be able to get a substantial return for Lynn, Clevinger, or Plesac AA has little choice. Other teams are mainly focused on Anderson, Muller, Pache, Waters, Contreras, and Langeliers at this point. If you can't get Texas to bite on a Wright/Newk/Touki offer for Lynn, you've got to start looking at those guys though. Cleveland isn't going to be interested without a serious offensive player in the deal, and I just don't see AA trading any of Pache, Waters, or Contreras. Langeliers isn't going to be enough to be considered a centerpiece for them (Contreras might not even be).

Offer the Orioles any one of Newk/Touki/Wilson for Cobb and they'll jerk your arm off. As of right now, he's a better option to start a playoff game than anyone we have not named Fried, Hamels, Folty, and potentially Anderson. The same probably goes for Eovaldi and Walker. If he can take on the money for Eovaldi or Cobb, trying to get Seager and at least one of the Seattle Pitchers makes sense. At that point you can look into putting Riley in a deal if another team's looking for offense.

In my dream scenario AA could turn Wright and Newk into Lynn to front the rotation the rest of the way and in 2021. Then he could turn Wilson and Touki into Seager, Walker, and cash. If all that worked, maybe he could turn Riley and Langeliers into Clevinger. That gives you Lynn, Fried, Clevinger, Walker as your first four SPs down the stretch and you see what you can get out of Erlin/Tomlin/Ynoa/Davidson/Weigel as Openers/piggyback guys until Anderson's completely ready and/or Hamels or Folty becomes an option. Soroka replaces Walker and Anderson steps into the 5th slot in 2021.

[thewupk]

These guys might help us win the division, not sure how much any of these move the needle as far playoffs though. Which would you want starting a game? Have to consider that when deciding how much to give up.

I mean as it stands we would have Tomlin and Erlin starting games 2 and 3. I'm sure there are upgrades over those two out there.

[NYCBrave]

I mean as it stands we would have Tomlin and Erlin starting games 2 and 3. I'm sure there are upgrades over those two out there.

Oh definitely. But my point was most of these upgrades still don't give us much of a great chance to win. Would rather just see bullpen games with openers.

[Hudson2]

We could make it work with Bogaerts with all the money coming off the books. Pache will be ready to start the season next year and Waters is getting close too so we could have a really cheap OF soon. Maybe we could pawn Ender off on somebody but I doubt it.

[Horsehide Harry]

Some possibles for the rotation might be Teheran, Matz, Eovaldi, Perez, Harvey, Boyd, Lynn, Bundy, Walker, Cueto, Gausman

Not a great list. Some can be had for nothing because of expense. Some are really worth nothing and you'd have to hope they rebound. Pretty ugly all the way around.

[CyYoung31]

I’d roll in the floor if we ended up bringing Teheran back after all of this.

[Horsehide Harry]

I’d roll in the floor if we ended up bringing Teheran back after all of this.

The devil you know....

[NYCBrave]

I’d roll in the floor if we ended up bringing Teheran back after all of this.

And then he ends up starting a playoff game for us...

[TheBravos]

I’d roll in the floor if we ended up bringing Teheran back after all of this.

Didn’t they already put him in the pen because he was doing so bad?

[Enscheff]

Qualified starters from teams I consider "out of it".

Red Sox - Perez, Eovaldi
Tigers - Boyd
Royals - Duffy, Singer
Mariners - None
Angels - Bundy, Heaney
Pirates - None

So that's 7 names, and it seems like only the Pirates are clear sellers in the NL.

Bundy - owed basically nothing, dominant in 2020, still under arb control next...this is a prime target
Heaney - same deal as Bundy, probably costs less to acquire
Perez - mediocre pitcher, owed very little, cheap option for 2021...a prime candidate
Eovaldi - owed a lot of cash for a while, hard to justify this add financially
Boyd - owed nothing, arb control in 2021, much better than his 8.48 ERA...a prime candidate
Duffy - owed some cash through 2021, solid SP, think I heard KC will never trade him
Singer - tons of control, isn't going anywhere

Perez seems free, so pencil him in as a Braves by the end of the month.

Bundy seems like a breakout star with the O's so expect them to keep him for next year. The Angels probably aren't going to punt any season with Trout, so probably not trading Heaney either. Eovaldi is too expensive without Boston sending cash. Duffy and Singer seem like fixtures in KC.

That leaves Boyd as a buy low candidate.

So...Perez and Boyd it is.

[cajunrevenge]

Qualified starters from teams I consider "out of it".

Red Sox - Perez, Eovaldi
Tigers - Boyd
Royals - Duffy, Singer
Mariners - None
Angels - Bundy, Heaney
Pirates - None

So that's 7 names, and it seems like only the Pirates are clear sellers in the NL.

Bundy - owed basically nothing, dominant in 2020, still under arb control next...this is a prime target
Heaney - same deal as Bundy, probably costs less to acquire
Perez - mediocre pitcher, owed very little, cheap option for 2021...a prime candidate
Eovaldi - owed a lot of cash for a while, hard to justify this add financially
Boyd - owed nothing, arb control in 2021, much better than his 8.48 ERA...a prime candidate
Duffy - owed some cash through 2021, solid SP, think I heard KC will never trade him
Singer - tons of control, isn't going anywhere

Perez seems free, so pencil him in as a Braves by the end of the month.

Bundy seems like a breakout star with the O's so expect them to keep him for next year. The Angels probably aren't going to punt any season with Trout, so probably not trading Heaney either. Eovaldi is too expensive without Boston sending cash. Duffy and Singer seem like fixtures in KC.

That leaves Boyd as a buy low candidate.

So...Perez and Boyd it is.

Bundy is finally breaking out? Absolutely loved him as a prospect.

[TheBravos]

Qualified starters from teams I consider "out of it".

Red Sox - Perez, Eovaldi
Tigers - Boyd
Royals - Duffy, Singer
Mariners - None
Angels - Bundy, Heaney
Pirates - None

So that's 7 names, and it seems like only the Pirates are clear sellers in the NL.

Bundy - owed basically nothing, dominant in 2020, still under arb control next...this is a prime target
Heaney - same deal as Bundy, probably costs less to acquire
Perez - mediocre pitcher, owed very little, cheap option for 2021...a prime candidate
Eovaldi - owed a lot of cash for a while, hard to justify this add financially
Boyd - owed nothing, arb control in 2021, much better than his 8.48 ERA...a prime candidate
Duffy - owed some cash through 2021, solid SP, think I heard KC will never trade him
Singer - tons of control, isn't going anywhere

Perez seems free, so pencil him in as a Braves by the end of the month.

Bundy seems like a breakout star with the O's so expect them to keep him for next year. The Angels probably aren't going to punt any season with Trout, so probably not trading Heaney either. Eovaldi is too expensive without Boston sending cash. Duffy and Singer seem like fixtures in KC.

That leaves Boyd as a buy low candidate.

So...Perez and Boyd it is.

How about Arizona?

[CyYoung31]

Didn’t they already put him in the pen because he was doing so bad?

Yeah, but I believe he had a bout with COVID and started the season on the IL.

[TheBravos]

Would Greinke be an option? Arizona is in last place.

[jpx7]

Would Greinke be an option? Arizona is in last place.

He plays for Houston, so Arizona’s playoff position might not matter too much.