Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

[sturg33]

What the **** are you talking about. 2020 vs 2016 biden gained.

Sigh

We are comparing the time frame where everyone got the **** out of California and New York

You claim is was all Republicans, but the 2022 results don't support that

It's ok to admit you are wrong. Republicans picked.up 5 seats in both California and New York. And the voting margin substantially shrunk for governor races

It is what it is fella

[zitothebrave]

Sigh

We are comparing the time frame where everyone got the **** out of California and New York

You claim is was all Republicans, but the 2022 results don't support that

It's ok to admit you are wrong. Republicans picked.up 5 seats in both California and New York. And the voting margin substantially shrunk for governor races

It is what it is fella

Wow you're a moron. I'll direct you again to

"You're comparing Midterm elections which historically go against the elected president.

In 23 mid term elections since 1934, only 2 times in the history of the country did the President's party gain seats in the house and senate. 1934 in depression era FDR (he lost seats every other midterm) and 2002 for Bush post 9/11. Which Bush was essentially still untouchable. You could argue 98 when dems lost no seats in the housea nd gained Senate seats. But that's just an argument.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/stat...term-elections

Without digging into the results too much. 6 million votes were cast in 2018 without the easier voting methods of 2022 which saw about 5.8M votes. Add in the increased motivation to get Schumer out.

So in an election Rs are expected to make gains because historically the party that isn't in the white house wins midterms, they did and people are shocked by it. Lol."

[thethe]

You saying the difference in desantis from 2018 and 2022 was people moving into the state? I think it's more desantis did really damn well during Covid

Its a mix - Desantis is an awesome governor and freedom loving people got out of their liberal ****holes.

[zitothebrave]

Its a mix - Desantis is an awesome governor and freedom loving people got out of their liberal ****holes.

When a useful idiot works for you, got to love it.

[sturg33]

Wow you're a moron. I'll direct you again to

"You're comparing Midterm elections which historically go against the elected president.

In 23 mid term elections since 1934, only 2 times in the history of the country did the President's party gain seats in the house and senate. 1934 in depression era FDR (he lost seats every other midterm) and 2002 for Bush post 9/11. Which Bush was essentially still untouchable. You could argue 98 when dems lost no seats in the housea nd gained Senate seats. But that's just an argument.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/stat...term-elections

Without digging into the results too much. 6 million votes were cast in 2018 without the easier voting methods of 2022 which saw about 5.8M votes. Add in the increased motivation to get Schumer out.

So in an election Rs are expected to make gains because historically the party that isn't in the white house wins midterms, they did and people are shocked by it. Lol."

Zito.

We are talking about New York and California specifically. They had a mass migration of people fleeing from 2020

Your first claim was that millions of people who left were Republicans.

And yet the votes before and after gained for Republicans. Both in Congress and the governor

That doesn't jive with the states losing millions of red voters

[zitothebrave]

Zito.

We are talking about New York and California specifically. They had a mass migration of people fleeing from 2020

Your first claim was that millions of people who left were Republicans.

And yet the votes before and after gained for Republicans. Both in Congress and the governor

That doesn't jive with the states losing millions of red voters

Hey mooseknuckle.

READ WHAT THE **** WAS SAID. EVERY MIDTERM BUT 2 WENT AGAINST THE PARTY OF THE SITTING PRESIDENT SO IT SHOULDN'T COME AS A SURPRISE THAT IN AN ELECTION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO BLUE MORE DEMS VOTE AND IN AN ELECTION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO RED MORE REPUBLICANS VOTE

Figured speaking int he language of conservative twitter would get the point across to you.

[sturg33]

Hey mooseknuckle.

READ WHAT THE **** WAS SAID. EVERY MIDTERM BUT 2 WENT AGAINST THE PARTY OF THE SITTING PRESIDENT SO IT SHOULDN'T COME AS A SURPRISE THAT IN AN ELECTION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO BLUE MORE DEMS VOTE AND IN AN ELECTION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO RED MORE REPUBLICANS VOTE

Figured speaking int he language of conservative twitter would get the point across to you.

ok little one... im going to a lot of work for you.

let's look at NY first. I'll go all the way back to 2010 when the rise of the tea party was happening. A reminder that 2010 was one of the best election performances in GOP history

2010: R seats won: 8; % of vote: 41%
2012: 6; 31%
2014: 9; 43%
2016: 9; 36%
2018: 6; 31%
2020: 8; 36%
2022: 11; 44%

one of those years really sticks out, doesn't it?

How about governor races? Gop margin:

2010: 34%
2014: 40%
2018: 36%
2022: 47%

one of those really sticks out there, doesn't it

now, you are record as claiming that the millions of people who fled NY after 2020, are dumb ol republicans. So it is confusing that the the GOP did so well in 2022... Do you believe Zeldin may have won the race without the mass migration? He only lost by 300K votes

[sturg33]

Interestingly enough, 2022 was one of the worst years for party out of power in history.

But, for some strange reason, that was not the case.in NY and California

[zitothebrave]

ok little one... im going to a lot of work for you.

let's look at NY first. I'll go all the way back to 2010 when the rise of the tea party was happening. A reminder that 2010 was one of the best election performances in GOP history

2010: R seats won: 8; % of vote: 41%
2012: 6; 31%
2014: 9; 43%
2016: 9; 36%
2018: 6; 31%
2020: 8; 36%
2022: 11; 44%

Thanks for pointing out my point. Rs were at around 40-45% in 2010, 2014, and 2022. What do those all have in common? Oh they're all midterms with a dem in office. Only difference was redisctricting in 2021 that screwed the Ds.

[sturg33]

He's hopeless.

Record seats won in 2022

Record voting % in 2022

And I take note Verizon boy cut out the governor data


Guys... All the people fleeing the ****hole of NY and California are MAGA voters

Hahahaha. As much as I am pessimistic about the future, it is comforting to know how ****ing stupid the enemy is

[thethe]

Interestingly enough, 2022 was one of the worst years for party out of power in history.

But, for some strange reason, that was not the case.in NY and California

All you need to do is cheat in contested areas

[zitothebrave]

He's hopeless.

Record seats won in 2022

Record voting % in 2022

And I take note Verizon boy cut out the governor data


Guys... All the people fleeing the ****hole of NY and California are MAGA voters

Hahahaha. As much as I am pessimistic about the future, it is comforting to know how ****ing stupid the enemy is

They had 1 more % vote than in 2014. 1 more percentage. You're spiking the ball popping the champagne on an argument based on 1% point. Again, seats won were because of redistricting. WIthout the redistricting they likely wind up around 9 seats again.

But even without that you'd spiking the ball over some minor victories.

First i didn't say everyone moving to Florida or Texas is from NY or California that's something you invented. Nor did I say people moving from NY were all conservative. I know there were people who left NYC for NJ and Connecticut. I know personally a lot of people who moved from Mass and NY to NH.

I simply pointed out the clear evolution movement to FL and TX based on presidential voting trends. Cause I'm not a moron, like you and I can back my point.

I left out Governor because anyone with 3 braincells could understand the **** show that was the politics in New York the last 2 years. Andrew Cuomo tainted that office for whoever was running after him unless they spent their time ****ting on him and still courting his voters successfully.

I know you struggle with numbers, and basic analysis. I mean we all know Stockholm has a higher population density than NYC.

[sturg33]

He's hopeless

[zitothebrave]

He's hopeless

Lol

[sturg33]

Why do you suppose the GOP did much better in California and New York relative to how they did in the rest of the country?

[zitothebrave]

Why do you suppose the GOP did much better in California and New York relative to how they did in the rest of the country?

Show me this.

You have no evidence other than the reality that overlal it was a letdown. Show me the evidence you have.

[sturg33]

Show me this.

You have no evidence other than the reality that overlal it was a letdown. Show me the evidence you have.

If I showed you the evidence of exactly this, what would your takeaway be?

[zitothebrave]

If I showed you the evidence of exactly this, what would your takeaway be?

Show me the empirical data. Majority of simple data I've seen indicates that without redistricting it wouldn't even have been a red ripple.

[sturg33]

Show me the empirical data. Majority of simple data I've seen indicates that without redistricting it wouldn't even have been a red ripple.

My question was very specific.

If I showed you evidence that GOP over performed in NY and California relative to the rest of the country, what would your takeaway be?

[zitothebrave]

My question was very specific.

If I showed you evidence that GOP over performed in NY and California relative to the rest of the country, what would your takeaway be?

I don't want relative to "rest of country" I want to see actual real data. Not NY and CA vs. national average when we had massive down years from many non-competitive states.