Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

[thethe]

Life expectancy is also obviously the reverse opium wars that will impact less economically advanced areas. But keep celebrating.

[nsacpi]

Life expectancy is also obviously the reverse opium wars that will impact less economically advanced areas. But keep celebrating.

why would i be celebrating the deaths of fellow americans...i'm trying to enlighten y'all to the tragedy of poor healthcare policy in red states

an ongoing tragedy that is intensifying in its effects as reflected in the WIDENING GAP in life expectancy

the gap has been widening both before and after the fentanyl crisis...it has deeper roots in healthcare policy choices at the state level

but y'all be my guest and go right on spiking the football in celebration of your superior culture and the superior wisdom of your policy and other choices

[thethe]

why would i be celebrating the deaths of fellow americans...i'm trying to enlighten y'all to the tragedy of poor healthcare policy in red states

an ongoing tragedy that is intensifying in its effects as reflected in the WIDENING GAP in life expectancy

Yes because of the reverse opium wars.

Not to hard to understand something so basic. Well…it shouldn’t be.

[Garmel]

George Wallace once said "make it so low even the cows get it." Useful advice for posting around here. But I can only go so low. If y'all want to believe that California leads the country in poverty rates I wouldn't want to spoil your fun.

lol

It can't be true if it goes against what the media tells me to think!

Cost of living in Cal kills Joe Schmo.

[Garmel]

Man, those blue states are such paradises that people can't wait to get the hell out of there. lol

[Garmel]

The fact that Cal is having record movement out of the state might tell you that maybe the numerous articles I've posted might just be right.

All the money is in the hands of a few that skewers the stats.

[Tapate50]

If only chop country would hit it big.

Then maybe a red state would have “value”

[Tapate50]

California is so well off they were considering a 3 yr tax on people leaving so they could pay their bills

[Tapate50]

Income tax is near what… 50%?

[nsacpi]

The bottom 10 in per capita income: West Virginia, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Alabama, Kentucky, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee. Red states, with the exception of New Mexico.

The top 10: Maryland, New Jersey, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Connecticut, California, New Hampshire, Alaska, Washington, Virginia

Real (adjusted for cost of living) or nominal?

nominal...good point

you might find this study that looks at living standards adjusted by things like cost of housing interesting

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econr...a-20200528.htm

top 10: MN, MA, ND, CT, SD, NH, NE, NJ, NY, VT

bottom 10: MS, AL, OK, LA, AR, KY, TN, WV, SC, GA

bumped from page 1 of this thread...but don't let any of these facts get in the way of your fun

[Garmel]

Man, for the life of me I can't understand why people keep leaving these blue states. Man, they're such paradises!

Relying on the older stats that don't factor much into the total cost of living gives a false impression. There's more to it than just housing.

People are leaving Cal in mind blowing amounts for a reason. If people were happy there they would be staying.

[Tapate50]

Probably the sidewalk feces app.

[Garmel]

Man, those California electoral votes/house seats are shrinking like hell.

[thethe]

Man, those California electoral votes/house seats are shrinking like hell.

Imagine what it would be if they didn’t count illegals?

[Garmel]

Imagine what it would be if they didn’t count illegals?

Excellent point.

[zitothebrave]

lol. Yes, I read the article.

Just because you don't agree with SPM doesn't make it wrong. As the article says the Census Bureau adopted it because it is more realistic.

SPM factors in cost of living which makes it superior to older methods.

Again, the issue is that SPM doesn't account for different things. You can live in LA County and have 2 totally different livable wages but they're all lumped together. Lancaster has a house value according to zillow of 459K, with a median household income around 71K San Marino has an average home value of 2.6M according to zillow and median household income of 175K. Your life in those 2 areas on the same salary would be drastically different.

[Garmel]

lol

[57Brave]

[nsacpi]

Reddit is the second big IPO this week.

The first was Astera Labs. Domiciled Santa Clara, California.

[nsacpi]

Interesting article on who is moving out of California and why.

https://www.ppic.org/blog/whos-leavi...hos-moving-in/

And to round off the picture there is immigration from other countries. I'll give y'all a guess as to which state(s) top that chart.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...e-us-by-state/

So...the folks leaving California are older and less well-educated. Doesn't make them bad people.

The number of higher income people leaving spiked during 2020 and 2021 but is attenuating.

The number of young people with college degrees leaving is smaller than those coming in. Something that has held for a long time (but was briefly not the case during covid).

California leads in immigrants, both in absolute terms and as a proportion of population. This group is an important part of the secret sauce of economic dynamism for states like California, New Jersey, New York and Florida.

The states where immigrants constitute the smallest share of the population: West Virginia, Mississippi, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, Alabama.