Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

[nsacpi]

since i'm in insufferable snob mode...let's look at classical music...the top 6 orchestras in the united states as rated by Europaphilharmonie:

1. New York
2. LA
3. Boston
4. Cleveland
5. Chicago
6. San Francisco

Only Cleveland's presence averts a shutout.

And then you look at the top music schools. Here's a good list:

https://successfulstudent.org/top-25...ams-in-the-us/

7 out of 25 in red states. Which actually shocks me. None in the top 6. By and large red states are cultural deserts (which i'm sure many of y'all wear as a kind of badge of honor). Sorry for the full snob mode assessment. It is what it is.

The best things about our culture--whether it be arts or advanced institutions of scientific research--are fairly abundant in blue states and sadly lacking in red states

[sturg33]

Lol

[sturg33]

Please do remember to unplug your toaster at 3pm so that we may be able to provide electricity to the non homeless

[nsacpi]

my favorite work of art, which i've been able to see on numerous occasions at the MOMA

[nsacpi]

the view from the Oakland Hills, Mormon temple in the foreground

[striker42]

This discussion reminds me of my favorite Futurama episode, The Lost City of Atlanta. When Fry wants to stay Zoidberg says "I mean, sure, they got the Braves but it's a third-rate symphony."

[nsacpi]

The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose, where I enjoyed a game of Pong for the first time since high school. Pong was developed by Atari, then domiciled in Sunnyvale. It helped spawn a pretty big industry, much of it still centered in California.

[nsacpi]

This discussion reminds me of my favorite Futurama episode, The Lost City of Atlanta. When Fry wants to stay Zoidberg says "I mean, sure, they got the Braves but it's a third-rate symphony."

Don't forget Chick-fil-A and sweet tea.

[sturg33]

Isn't the entertainment industry moving to Atlanta in droves?

[nsacpi]

Isn't the entertainment industry moving to Atlanta in droves?

Why Atlanta and not some red part of Georgia? Like Macon.

Not that there is anything wrong with Macon. I'm sure the people there are great.

[sturg33]

Why Georgia instead of California?

[nsacpi]

hmmm...i guess red means last person out turn off the lights please

but i kind of understand why a young person in say eastern Oregon might head to Portland, for the good-paying jobs and fancy coffee shops and a wee bit of culture

[nsacpi]

Why Georgia instead of California?

Cuz California can afford to share its leftovers

[sturg33]

Lol its funny how this topic makes you so sensitive

[nsacpi]

i've had more fun with this thread than any other

the six teeth or more missing map is a gem

the IQ one is pretty fabulous too

[nsacpi]

https://www.census.gov/library/visua...-by-state.html

divorce rate by state

[sturg33]

This one is two years old... but it's pretty telling how it is basically a reverse map of the electorate.

Why do the blue states keep moving to the horrifyingly bad red states?

I

Just

Don't

Get

It.

And it's getting even worse since this snapshot!

The good news for you nsacpi... is the the people who are fleeing that awful policies... will keep voting for the same policies in their new homes.

[nsacpi]

i'm mentioned life expectancy

what about change in life expetancy

the Census Bureau has estimates by state from 2010 to 2018

life expectancy has fallen in 18 states during this period (kinda shocking)...14 of those 18 went for very poorly chosen one in 2016 (this part is not shocking)

not only are things bad in those states, they keep getting worse relative to the rest of the country

[sturg33]

just wait til the northeasten covid numbers catch up...

[nsacpi]

California and New York had the two biggest increases in life expectancy. Not fair. They do so many things wrong and yet people there keep getting richer and living longer.