These charts show all those scatter plots.
I don't see anything that suggests more than 3 pitches, just the normal variance of good ones and not so good ones scattered all over.
https://www.fangraphs.com/players/ia...0&dh=0&data=pi
Hmm... here's some more "eye test" stuff that might betray the data that Enscheff put together. If my fastball was a good riser and my arm slot didn't allow me to have a lot of lateral movement, I'd certainly incorporate a flatter change and something with some more sink to fit the situation.
I would guess that Statcast grouped these pitches together and this might be why the sink was rated so low.
Has Fried's stuff taken a step forward this year or is it improved command in the strike zone and throwing more sliders that has made him a better pitcher? Probably the latter half. Righties just haven't been able to square up his fastball in. I think last year he stayed away to righties a lot more.
Fried has bad spin rates on his FA, which is why it's a SI now. It took a while for that change to happen, but it needed to happen, and was evident from day 1. His spin rates on the breaking stuff is elite, and he parlayed that into adding a killer SL along with the CU. It is a perfect example of taking tremendous raw skill and creating a great pitcher.
Anderson just gets poor spin on everything. His over the top arm slot sacrifices horizontal movement to get vertical movement, and that makes the FA work as a riser. It's almost like an OFer throwing motion to get pure backspin so his throws carry straight rather than fade to the side.
He is mostly the same guy as last year, so probably better location and execution.
Fried is right in that sweet spot where his stuff isn't yet declining, but his pitchability is peaking. This is peak Fried, and it's awesome.
I mean seriously, 12" of drop on that CU is downright filthy. It is quite possibly the best CU in baseball.
jpx7 (08-27-2020), UNCBlue012 (08-27-2020)
Another reason to wish this would have been a full season. If the rotation would have imploded in April instead of August we'd probably have had a chance to see Weigel, Davidson, De La Cruz, and potentially even Muller get a shot before AA has to decide on just how much he has to give up for a MOR arm.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
Perhaps I wasn't clear in my post. What I meant by deception was like Alex Wood for example. His unorthodox mechanics allow him to hide the ball for longer, so the ball appears to be on the hitter sooner than someone with normal mechanics. Obviously Ian doesn't have the same strange style. But just wondering if a pitcher can not only survive, but thrive, but having a deceptive delivery that makes their stuff harder to pick up.
Here is an article I found about Wood's mechanics and the deception that allows him to be hard to pick up.
https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/20...hanics-lol-wtf
jpx7 (08-27-2020)
Reddit posted a link to a site with gif of Anderson’s game. It is a good eye test recap. After looking I think his change is more execution. There was one 89 that dropped and some 87 flat. The last pitch he threw was 86 and just dropped off the table. His curve is scary to the eye test. Looks like a hanging slider. When located it can be effective I guess.
Here is the link.
https://www.pitcherlist.com/gif-brea...ut-in-32-gifs/
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no seriously...Split
Last edited by Horsehide Harry; 08-27-2020 at 02:19 PM.
clvclv (08-27-2020)
I think it needs to be pointed out that in Wood's spectacular half season of 2017, he added a four-seamer with a couple more ticks than his two-seamer. That basically made him golden. Problem is, the increased velocity wore him down and he went back to the two-seamer almost exclusively. It made him mortal again.
Klaw chat today
He had the opinion he wasn’t impressed with Anderson. Loved plan of attack and control. Said none of his pitches looked plus.
Loved the description of him as smart and competitive. Same description of Soroka when he came up. We're full up with kids that can spin it, but don't seem to have a plan or believe in their stuff.
Looked to me like Ian's head makes his stuff play up.
clvclv (08-28-2020)