Looking Ahead - The 2020 Offseason Thread

[thewupk]

Heyman says minor league deal with invite to spring training

So Camargo replacement if Camargo looks like ass in ST? My understanding is we can cut Camargo in ST and not owe him anything?

[salmagundy]

Can play 2b, LF/RF, and 1b. Pretty decent LH bench bat that should never hit against LHP if it can be helped. I hope we can bring back Flowers and get at least 1 other bench option (or get a starting 3b and move Riley to the bench).

1 game at 1B, 25 games in CF in career. Don't know how many innings were played in positions other than 2B. No games shown in LF/RF or SS/3B. Seems like a limited "bench piece" defensively and could be a LHH pinch hitter only. Still no "real" backup at SS.

[clvclv]

So Camargo replacement if Camargo looks like ass in ST? My understanding is we can cut Camargo in ST and not owe him anything?

Camargo will be due ~ $357,275 if he's released.

[clvclv]

First I understand AA need to improve the bench but i don’t see many of those free agents to improve our team. A lot of people talk over here about Jonathan Villar.

Check the stats compared with Johan Camargo.
Jonathan Villar play 52 games and Camargo playing less had almost better stats. Villar had a lot of stole base and a negative war. Probably a worst defender too.

Jonathon Villar plays for the Mets.

[skillet]

If signing Kipnis is just a plan C option this is fine, but if he is all AA is going to do to improve the bench, then 🤮

[Enscheff]

1 game at 1B, 25 games in CF in career. Don't know how many innings were played in positions other than 2B. No games shown in LF/RF or SS/3B. Seems like a limited "bench piece" defensively and could be a LHH pinch hitter only. Still no "real" backup at SS.

If a guy can play CF and 2B I’m going to guess he can handle 3B.

I just hope this isn’t the main bench player we’ve been waiting for.

[msstate7]

Well obviously AA doesn't want kipnis playing at 2b much, so wonder where we'll be playing him in ST to see if he's useful

[nsacpi]

y'all need to accept that Panda is Plan A, Plan B and Plan C

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[clvclv]

If signing Kipnis is just a plan C option this is fine, but if he is all AA is going to do to improve the bench, then ��

A minor league deal for Kipnis rather than $2-$3 million for Cabrera is awful.

Apparently AA is only interested in signing bench options who are willing to take minor league deals - money must be tight.

[skillet]

A minor league deal for Kipnis rather than $2-$3 million for Cabrera is awful.

Apparently AA is only interested in signing bench options who are willing to take minor league deals - money must be tight.

This is I've been fearing since we've seen so many good options go to other teams. I think money is very tight and AA shot his wad on Smiley.

[jpx7]

We also have Victor Arano, Carl Edwards Jr and Nate Jones, all right handers with prior success vying for a spot.

Yep. Those are all low-risk pick-ups I've really liked, and I think there's a decent chance the Braves receive as solid a performance in 2021 from one of those guys as they would from Shane Greene (without even factoring in the price of Greene).

[Southcack77]

If a guy can play CF and 2B I’m going to guess he can handle 3B.

I just hope this isn’t the main bench player we’ve been waiting for.

or LF.

Same.

[nsacpi]

Well obviously AA doesn't want kipnis playing at 2b much, so wonder where we'll be playing him in ST to see if he's useful

I suspect he can play a passable third. We'll find out in spring training. But the bat doesn't recommend itself.

[OcalaBrave]

Just curious as to why everyone is clamoring for a back-up SS? Who can you sign that would be better defensively than Albies? Who could we sign as a back-up SS that isn't a weak bat off the bench when compared to folks that play 2b/3b?

If we lose both of our middle infielders, simultaneously, for a significant stretch we're pretty much cooked anyway, right?

[nsacpi]

Just curious as to why everyone is clamoring for a back-up SS? Who can you sign that would be better defensively than Albies? Who could we sign as a back-up SS that isn't a weak bat off the bench when compared to folks that play 2b/3b?

If we lose both of our middle infielders, simultaneously, for a significant stretch we're pretty much cooked anyway, right?

I think we want a good defensive SS at AAA. I'd rather have guys who can swing the bat on the major league bench.

[nsacpi]

[Southcack77]

Just curious as to why everyone is clamoring for a back-up SS? Who can you sign that would be better defensively than Albies? Who could we sign as a back-up SS that isn't a weak bat off the bench when compared to folks that play 2b/3b?

If we lose both of our middle infielders, simultaneously, for a significant stretch we're pretty much cooked anyway, right?

Pretty much. I would guess they might try Shewmake before a AAA journeyman, but it is hard to say.

[Enscheff]

Think of Kipnis as a LHH Culberson who we don’t confuse with Swanson from 200’ away.

[jpx7]

Really excited to see Michael Harris get to play some actual games this season. I think he could shoot up the prospect rankings quickly, and the Braves seem to agree, given how aggressively they've been promoting him at such a young age.

[ixiXSolidXixi]

Jonathon Villar plays for the Mets.

Yes and making twice Camargo money!