If the A's are cash strapped and desperate to clear payroll due to covid losses, I could see AA taking on Khris Davis' contract to get Chapman if it helps lower the prospect cost. You could then use Davis as part of a platoon in left.
If the A's are cash strapped and desperate to clear payroll due to covid losses, I could see AA taking on Khris Davis' contract to get Chapman if it helps lower the prospect cost. You could then use Davis as part of a platoon in left.
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I know we all need something to hold on to. Something to talk about. But look at those words. Kicking tires. Checking in on. Similar interest. All safe click bait wording with no substance.
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JohnAdcox (01-26-2021)
Which only makes those different from any other rumors that have come to fruition by being they're about the Braves.
Unfortunately with AA, anything anyone says could be true - he's shown he's willing to make huge deals before and his lieutenants leak nothing, meaning guessing what he may be in on is impossible to sound "crazy" with all the young and inexpensive talent he could deal. He could literally be in on EVERYBODY.
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Adding Ramirez and Bryant into these lists of 2019-2020 stats.
xwOBA overall
Cruz .403
Ozuna .397
Turner .383
Ramirez .350
Bryant .339
xwOBA vs LHP
Cruz .473
Ozuna .434
Turner .402
Ramirez .388
Bryant .386
FB/LD EV
Cruz 98.9
Ozuna 96.4
Turner 93.1
Ramirez 92.5
Bryant 92.1
These numbers tell me Ramirez' offense is more Bryant than it is Cruz/Ozuna (with Turner acting as a bridge). He obviously carries much more defensive value than those guys though.
The other benefit of Ramirez is his low salary allows room for other additions to the roster. If AA can get him for any package that doesn't contain Pache or Anderson it would be a very solid move. If he has to include one of those cornerstones he would probably be better served bringing Ozuna back.
So a Ramirez trade pretty much relies on the Indians overvaluing guys like Riley, Waters, Wright, Newk and Touki.
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Great analysis. The main issue with trading Riley though is it just creates another hole. Ramirez would obviously be a big upgrade over Riley, but he makes a lot more money and we'd still need to spend on a LF and potentially DH.
For better or worse, I feel like we are stuck with Riley this year because he's cheap and fills a hole at a position of need.
This is also the reason a Chapman deal would probably make the most sense AND possibly be the easiest to swallow since Oakland loves all those inexpensive 1-2 win guys.
Riley would instantly step in at 3B for them, Waters would make the minimum as Canha's 2022 replacement, Shewmake is probably better than any of their MI guys not named Puason, either of our Catchers would make a great partner for Murphy, Ball would give them an Olson/Bryant replacement at some point in the near future, and our post-hype arms (Wright, Touki, Newk, Wilson) would help them keep their pitching cheap for some time.
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The Indians have targeted MLB players in return for both Lindor and Clevinger. They are clearly trying to rebuild on the fly.
So guys like Riley, Wright and Touki fit that bill almost perfectly. I could see the Ramirez package being similar to what they got for Clevinger...but better players involved.
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JohnAdcox (01-26-2021)
I really want the strapped for cash deal. I was hoping we would be the advantage of ppl dumping money, not just the mets and padres.
If the As were going to run away from Cash we could take on Davis, Piscotty and Chapman for 31 million. Piscotty gets them out of 8 million next year too. If they'd take back Ender (just for money) we could take 23 million off of their books for this year and 7 million next year (Piscotty for 8 million minus 1 million for Ender's buy out). With a 40 man payroll sitting at 70 million that is a big savings.
It would be really nice for the As to truly be desperate for cash and to make a Chapman deal.
A's have to be desperate. We have to have that much room in our budget. Then the As have to want our guys.
We could give them a lot of upside 1-2 WAR guys with upside. Maybe guys like Touki, Wright, Wilson, Davidson, etc could be great in that ballpark.
I don't see it. If they are trading Chapman, don't they make that known and get bids from everyone?
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JohnAdcox (01-26-2021)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but those deals have all been for players making real money. No a ton of surplus value. Teams wanting to shed money.
Chapman is in his first year of arb. Now he's likely to get expensive very fast, but not expensive yet.
Ramirez is locked in to a cheap deal.
Bryant seems to be the only guy who is good but without a lot of surplus value that we'd want. And per reports we are not in on him.
The Phillies have signed JTR to a 5-year, $115.5M dollar contract, per Mish.
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