Looking Ahead - The 2020 Offseason Thread

[PawPawMaxwell]

I believe Morosi also mentioned the Blue Jays. That could make sense for Gurriel or Hernandez, and plug them into LF.

I still don't really believe this Realmuto stuff though.

You are correct but not to the length and extent that he talked up the Angels. Either of those you named would be of interest to me if I was AA. Also on MLB Tv they talked up the fact that Vlads defense was going to move him to 1B and DH. If so then Rowdy Tellez may have some interest to AA as well.

[Southcack77]

AA signed Donaldson at 3b when we had Camargo ready to go and our biggest hole elsewhere....he does tend to get the biggest impact player he can, regardless of position. if he does sign JTR, as doubtful as it is, he can deal with filling out the other spots later

Camargo was a big hole as a starting 3B. The front office knew that.

I don't think Realmuto necessarily solves the bat problem so much as possibly lock in offense from the catcher spot.

[Southcack77]

How much more is Realmuto worth than Grandal, who got 4/73?

[clvclv]

How much more is Realmuto worth than Grandal, who got 4/73?

Apparently he and his reps think he's worth more than Mauer got ($23 million per AAV).

If he took 4 years, that would be the Donaldson deal (4 years/$92 million) that AA already passed on.

[UNCBlue012]

Apparently he and his reps think he's worth more than Mauer got ($23 million per AAV).

If he took 4 years, that would be the Donaldson deal (4 years/$92 million) that AA already passed on.

To be fair, there's way less risk in signing JTR than JD.

[clvclv]

To be fair, there's way less risk in signing JTR than JD.

Not sure I'd go so far as to say "way more" - especially if you expect Realmuto to stay healthy and behind the plate into is mid-30s. That said, I'd probably feel more comfortable with spending that kind of money for him with the DH on the horizon - absolutely no way I'd have gone there with Donaldson.

[thewupk]

Apparently he and his reps think he's worth more than Mauer got ($23 million per AAV).

If he took 4 years, that would be the Donaldson deal (4 years/$92 million) that AA already passed on.

Mauer market back then and jtr market now are completely different.

And JD was way riskier than JT is now

[bravesfanforlife88]

Mauer market back then and jtr market now are completely different.

And JD was way riskier than JT is now

And we are a year closer to having the DH for sure....

Also, it could have changed due to COVID, but AA said there was a discussion in the front office about signing BOTH Ozuna and Donaldson last offseason. I wonder if they still have the flexibility this offseason for the right move. (not saying sign both Ozuna and JTR, but either one)

[Russ2dollas]

And we are a year closer to having the DH for sure....

Also, it could have changed due to COVID, but AA said there was a discussion in the front office about signing BOTH Ozuna and Donaldson last offseason. I wonder if they still have the flexibility this offseason for the right move. (not saying sign both Ozuna and JTR, but either one)

we had a 150 million dollar payroll last year.

We are far from that right now. We just don't know how much Liberty pulled back on the budget after last year and anticipating this year.

[PawPawMaxwell]

Mauer market back then and jtr market now are completely different.

And JD was way riskier than JT is now

Big part of Mauer's value was being a home town boy along with the talent and at the time the Twins needed to make a statement. JD's issue with his leg and age confirm that risk. How much value did the Twins get from JD this past year?

[PawPawMaxwell]

we had a 150 million dollar payroll last year.

We are far from that right now. We just don't know how much Liberty pulled back on the budget after last year and anticipating this year.

Liberty has an investment other than the Braves to protect in The Battery. The age old statement of "You have to spend money to make money" applies.

[Enscheff]

TDA is due for major regression in 2021. Selling high on him to a dumb team like the Angels might be a good move.

I still can’t imagine JTR is the target though. Options like Turner and Ozuna fit in so much more cleanly.

[Southcack77]

TDA is due for major regression in 2021. Selling high on him to a dumb team like the Angels might be a good move.

I still can’t imagine JTR is the target though. Options like Turner and Ozuna fit in so much more cleanly.

Hard to imagine, but if they have 30m, I think they could just fit in Realmuto, Turner, and Pederson if they're willing to attach a prospect to dump Inciarte somewhere like San Francisco and move TDA.

[MadduxFanII]

The Angels are just going to keep throwing money at free agents until they magically fix their issues, huh?

[Russ2dollas]

TDA is due for major regression in 2021. Selling high on him to a dumb team like the Angels might be a good move.

I still can’t imagine JTR is the target though. Options like Turner and Ozuna fit in so much more cleanly.

Angles hired a braves front office guy a couple of months ago. They likely are not the same dumb team. Maybe dumb ownership wins out.

Turner I worry about b/c I keep hearing rumors he'd retire before leaving west coast.

Ozuna seems like the only impact bat still on the market. Maybe Pederson vs RH, maybe. And I still think you'd have to expect major regression from Ozuna. Somewhere between Cardinals and Braves output.

Getting JTR only makes sense if there is a big trade somewhere. I'm just not sure where that is. Something crazy and complicated like getting Happ from Cubs, needing to give up (and willing to give up) Contreras in the deal and moving TDA for a prospect.

[UNCBlue012]

Heyman: While Braves checked in on Realmuto as
@ByRobertMurray
reported, most see it as a stretch they’d go past $100M for a catcher when they have d’Arnaud who won the Silver Slugger last year. GM Alex Anthopoulos has tried before for JT and can surprise but this seems like long shot.

There's not much info there but we'll see!

[PawPawMaxwell]

I read or heard this morning that Turner and Dodgers are discussing a 2 year deal.

[PawPawMaxwell]

Heyman: While Braves checked in on Realmuto as
@ByRobertMurray
reported, most see it as a stretch they’d go past $100M for a catcher when they have d’Arnaud who won the Silver Slugger last year. GM Alex Anthopoulos has tried before for JT and can surprise but this seems like long shot.

There's not much info there but we'll see!

I agree with the long shot part but to me Heyman offers very little in the way of info unless it is one of the major market teams.

[UNCBlue012]

Heyman: Braves are at least perusing the closer market. They checked in on Hendriks and likely Yates before they signed elsewhere. They do have Smith, Martin, Matzek and Minter but apparently would like to strengthen area. Colome, Rosenthal, Melancon are among closers left.

It's obvious but there was NO Braves news for months and now all of this is happening lol

[clvclv]

TDA is due for major regression in 2021. Selling high on him to a dumb team like the Angels might be a good move.

I still can’t imagine JTR is the target though. Options like Turner and Ozuna fit in so much more cleanly.

So let's play musical chairs (assuming $25 million is what AA has left to play with)...

1.) Riley, Waters, and Wilson to Cincinnati for Suarez - adds ~ $10 million in salary

2.) d'Arnaud and Muller to Anaheim for Max Stassi and Jared Walsh - saves ~ $5.5 million in salary

3.) Sign Ozuna to DH - adds ~ $18 million in salary

4.) Release Jackson and re-sign Melancon ($4 million) - adds ~ $2.5 million in salary


Acuna, Freeman, Ozuna, Walsh, Suarez, Ozzie, Dansby, Stassi/Contreras, Ender/Pache