Lineup Tweaking - what would you do?

Julio3000 said:
You think they end up there?
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If nothing changes, we end up bottom 5. I was talking to a guy who caps baseball before the season started. He knows his stuff pretty well. He was pretty down on the Braves and said their lineup would be one of the 5 worst in the majors. I said he was crazy and spouted off all the reasons they wouldn't be...many I've already heard people mention on this board. Top 5 in offense last season, only losing McCann, nearly every position should potentially improve...and here we are 1/5 of the way into the season and if wasn't for a historically bad Padre offense we would be dead last.

We have hitters who can hit, but they also strike out a ton and nobody is on base when we clock our home runs. It's more than just being able to hit home runs. We have 32 homers which ranks 5th in the NL but only 93 rbis which is 14th in the NL and 29th in the majors. That's pathetic.

One thing nobody seems to be accounting for is that last year our division stunk. This year the division is much better. We are going to have to manufacture runs and are incapable of doing so.
 
PurpleBrave said:
If nothing changes, we end up bottom 5. I was talking to a guy who caps baseball before the season started. He knows his stuff pretty well. He was pretty down on the Braves and said their lineup would be one of the 5 worst in the majors. I said he was crazy and spouted off all the reasons they wouldn't be...many I've already heard people mention on this board. Top 5 in offense last season, only losing McCann, nearly every position should potentially improve...and here we are 1/5 of the way into the season and if wasn't for a historically bad Padre offense we would be dead last.

We have hitters who can hit, but they also strike out a ton and nobody is on base when we clock our home runs. It's more than just being able to hit home runs. We have 32 homers which ranks 5th in the NL but only 93 rbis which is 14th in the NL and 29th in the majors. That's pathetic.

One thing nobody seems to be accounting for is that last year our division stunk. This year the division is much better. We are going to have to manufacture runs and are incapable of doing so.
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Wrong. One month of baseball is not a good sample size. Two months, sure. There's a reason all GMs evaluate their teams at the end of May.
 
CyYoung31 said:
Wrong. One month of baseball is not a good sample size. Two months, sure. There's a reason all GMs evaluate their teams at the end of May.
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Wrong about what? You're correct, stats start to firm up in about 2 weeks...but what in the world have you seen that would lead you to believe that this cast of characters batting where they are right now will pull out of it?
 
PurpleBrave said:
Wrong about what? You're correct, stats start to firm up in about 2 weeks...but what in the world have you seen that would lead you to believe that this cast of characters batting where they are right now will pull out of it?
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How about the fact that this team was scoring runs at a solid pace up until the last week? Exactly why you don't take a month long sample as gospel. One bad week can skew the stats.
 
CyYoung31 said:
How about the fact that this team was scoring runs at a solid pace up until the last week? Exactly why you don't take a month long sample as gospel. One bad week can skew the stats.
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I guess your definition of a solid pace differs from mine. Outside of a stretch against Washinton & Phille where Justin Upton was out of his mind, runs have been tough to come by
 
and what's funny is that 4 game stretch accounts for about 1/3 of the runs we've scored this season. Pretty solid, heh.
 
PurpleBrave said:
I guess your definition of a solid pace differs from mine. Outside of a stretch against Washinton & Phille where Justin Upton was out of his mind, runs have been tough to come by
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Before the Marlins series the Braves were averaging 4 runs per game. Considering that's right around league average so far this year, I'd say yes, my definition of solid does drastically differ from your's since apparently you'd only apply that term to the '27 Yankees.
 
CyYoung31 said:
Before the Marlins series the Braves were averaging 4 runs per game. Considering that's right around league average so far this year, I'd say yes, my definition of solid does drastically differ from your's since apparently you'd only apply that term to the '27 Yankees.
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And take out a 4 game stretch and they're averaging slightly below 3...putting them on par with where they are right now...right at the bottom of the league.
 
PurpleBrave said:
And take out a 4 game stretch and they're averaging slightly below 3...putting them on par with where they are right now...right at the bottom of the league.
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And take out a 6 game stretch and they're right around league average.

We can do this all day.
 
Which is essentially what you did when you took out the Marlins and SF series to begin with lol. So we can take the 6 bad games out, but we can't take out the 4 above average ones that completely skew the stats. Not to mention if you combine them all, we're back to where we are now...bottom of the league. We're all about sample sizes but I see 4 good games driving up the per game run average of an entire season so far of average, poor, to bad games. No matter...tonight looks like an attempt at least to change something. Hopefully we'll continue to tweak things until we figure it out. Go Braves.
 
PurpleBrave said:
Which is essentially what you did when you took out the Marlins and SF series to begin with lol. So we can take the 6 bad games out, but we can't take out the 4 above average ones that completely skew the stats. Not to mention if you combine them all, we're back to where we are now...bottom of the league. We're all about sample sizes but I see 4 good games driving up the per game run average of an entire season so far of average, poor, to bad games. No matter...tonight looks like an attempt at least to change something. Hopefully we'll continue to tweak things until we figure it out. Go Braves.
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I was making a point about how one bad week can skew results over a month long sample size. You weren't making a point, and if you were, you were just supporting mine.
 
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