Economics Thread

mqt said:
This is just an explicit admission that tariffs do exactly what we’ve been saying they do.
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Yes - charge companies that profit from selling to by far the best market in the world while also hollowing out that market by moving production.

Where you guys have been wrong is assuming the majority of the tariff is born by the consumer. That has shown to be completely wrong and over time less of the burden will be on the consumer because of price elasticity.

Its very clear this was the purpose all along.
 
thethe said:
A very important part of the jobs report.

Can you tell me what the YTD (starting February) figures look like for private sector job growth for Americans vs. non?

What do you think will happen to the employment of foreign born look like after raids like we saw at the Hundai plant?
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What do you think will happen to the domestic job production if we scare off companies investing in America by raiding their construction of new US facilities and chaining up their employees?
 
thethe said:
Yes - charge companies that profit from selling to by far the best market in the world while also hollowing out that market by moving production.

Its very clear this was the purpose all along.
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No, it wasn’t because your cult members constantly shift the goal posts on what the purpose is.
 
mqt said:
What do you think will happen to the domestic job production if we scare off companies investing in America by raiding their construction of new US facilities and chaining up their employees?
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Companies that want to leverage illegal labor should be scared off and not build here. Other companies that want to hire American will benefit from our markets and favorable tax laws.
 
mqt said:
No, it wasn’t because your cult members constantly shift the goal posts on what the purpose is.
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Its because like leftist media the last 10 years just chase shiny objects all day long.

Signal vs Noise.

I've tried to explain this to many of you who just caught up in "DID YOU HEAR WHAT TRUMP JUST SAID!?!?!?!"
 
thethe said:
Companies that want to leverage illegal labor should be scared off and not build here. Other companies that want to hire American will benefit from our markets and favorable tax laws.
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They were going to hire American workers, the plant was being set up to do that. But I guess you’re right, will nobody think about the poor American Hyundai new plant experts being edged out?
 
thethe said:
Its because like leftist media the last 10 years just chase shiny objects all day long.

Signal vs Noise.

I've tried to explain this to many of you who just caught up in "DID YOU HEAR WHAT TRUMP JUST SAID!?!?!?!"
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Trump saying a million different conflicting things isn’t the fault of the media.
 
mqt said:
They were going to hire American workers, the plant was being set up to do that. But I guess you’re right, will nobody think about the poor American Hyundai new plant experts being edged out?
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I'm aware American jobs aren't of concern to you.....Who will think of the poor farmers in Bangladesh!!!
 
mqt said:
Trump saying a million different conflicting things isn’t the fault of the media.
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Its the fault of the media for being suckered into the arguments that Trump wants them to have all the while self-deportations are up around an estimated 1.7M (promises made), border is completely shut, progress on peace around the world, Europe starting to wake up to the evils of their government, etc...

So many incredible things are happening to setup a great 26 and beyond. You stay being upset at things Trump says. I'll be thrilled at the things Trump and his team are doing.
 
thethe said:
Its the fault of the media for being suckered into the arguments that Trump wants them to have all the while self-deportations are up around an estimated 1.7M (promises made), border is completely shut, progress on peace around the world, Europe starting to wake up to the evils of their government, etc...

So many incredible things are happening to setup a great 26 and beyond. You stay being upset at things Trump says. I'll be thrilled at the things Trump and his team are doing.
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“Why is the lying media reporting on what the President is saying?” is certainly an argument.
 
mqt said:
Should I only trust them when they give Trump a press release about investing in America then?
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Who told you to trust that? And you're pretending you did then but now certainly trust them to ensure there are americans being hired?

Your own arguments can be easily used against you.

Trump is allowing them to invest in our great nation and access our great market. There will absolutely be a policing function to ensure they are playing by the rules.
 
thethe said:
Who told you to trust that? And you're pretending you did then but now certainly trust them to ensure there are americans being hired?

Your own arguments can be easily used against you.

Trump is allowing them to invest in our great nation and access our great market. There will absolutely be a policing function to ensure they are playing by the rules.
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Wait, so I shouldn’t trust the President when he says there’s billions or even trillions of dollars being invested in America to create jobs? This is a shocking development as I trust all things Donald Trump tells me. Do you trust these announcements or do you just share them to own the libs?
 
mqt said:
Wait, so I shouldn’t trust the President when he says there’s billions or even trillions of dollars being invested in America to create jobs? This is a shocking development as I trust all things Donald Trump tells me. Do you trust these announcements or do you just share them to own the libs?
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I'm saying you can trust whatever you want but don't pretend like you were hesitatnt to trust the announcement but now of course the illegal workers were just temporary because the company was going to do exactly what Trump said.

Either applaud the investment and say this raid was short sighted because american workers are coming in or say the investment was bullshit and they were trying to get around the system by hiring illegals.
 
thethe said:
I'm saying you can trust whatever you want but don't pretend like you were hesitatnt to trust the announcement but now of course the illegal workers were just temporary because the company was going to do exactly what Trump said.

Either applaud the investment and say this raid was short sighted because american workers are coming in or say the investment was bullshit and they were trying to get around the system by hiring illegals.
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It is frustrating when someone changes their argument on tariffs and jobs to fit whatever specific point they have to make at the time, huh?
 
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