Economics Thread

sturg33 said:
Commitments of $18 Trillion?

You believe that is real and will happen?
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Not all of it. But I never claimed that.

There will be significant investment in the trillions from foreign investors though over the next few years. That’s 100% you g to happen and you can tax me in this.
 
thethe said:
Unemployment is federal workers fired and increased labor force participation. Both good things.
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Actually no. First the magnitude of the federal layoffs cannot account for the rise in unemployment. Second is the issue of timing. The rise in unemployment precedes the federal layoffs (which didn't count for quite a while because they were still drawing a paycheck and technically employed).
 
nsacpi said:
Actually no. First the magnitude of the federal layoffs cannot account for the rise in unemployment. Second is the issue of timing. The rise in unemployment precedes the federal layoffs (which didn't count for quite a while because they were still drawing a paycheck and technically employed).
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It’s in line with taking away benefits from able bodied workers - federal layoffs - more opportunities for Americans. It’s a good thing labor force participation is spiking.
 
acesfull86 said:
We’ve been dominating and thriving with those tens of millions of illegals that you guys are convinced are a massive burden.

Is MAGA saying we’d be even more dominant and thriving even harder without all of them?

Is MAGA admitting that yes, actually, we can isolate and evaluate issues on their own merits?
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Weird!
 
thethe said:
Still funny you guys are pretending you didn’t predict a crash and emptier shelves.
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actually no one had to predict a stock market crash...it actually happened in the first four months of 2025....once Trump pulled back from the more extreme elements of his Liberation Day tariffs the market recovered
 
nsacpi said:
actually no one had to predict a stock market crash...it actually happened in the first four months of 2025....once Trump pulled back from the more extreme elements of his Liberation Day tariffs the market recovered
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Tariffs have been expanded from when he arrived in office and we have a market boom
 
thethe said:
Tariffs have been expanded from when he arrived in office and we have a market boom
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It is pretty evident that the market is booming because of enthusiasm for AI. Whether that is justified or not is another question. The boom is coming in spite of not because of these tariff policies.
 
nsacpi said:
It is pretty evident that the market is booming because of enthusiasm for AI. Whether that is justified or not is another question. The boom is coming in spite of not because of these tariff policies.
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I agree but just like jobless figures is downstream of AI. So can we not talk about unemployment then?
 
thethe said:
I agree but just like jobless figures is downstream of AI. So can we not talk about unemployment then?
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Sure. There are a lot of forces that affect unemployment. No doubt AI has had some effect. I'm not sure what the net is. The data center boom has contributed to a fair number of construction jobs.
 
nsacpi said:
Sure. There are a lot of forces that affect unemployment. No doubt AI has had some effect. I'm not sure what the net is. The data center boom has contributed to a fair number of construction jobs.
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Lot of forces affect markets as well. Think there is a large bullish factor becusss it will be built in the US because we have leadership that does things to put American first. Tariffs are one of those tools.
 
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