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Foles is good but not as good as people say.

Could be wrong, i dont see Chip paying Foles franchise-QB money.

He's an outside the box type of guy.

Most intelligent people (aka not Philly fans) realize that flash in pans happen. Kelly's offense was new, Foles was untested, many other things. Whether he amounts to anything is yet to be seen. But there's a reason you wait and see unless you're dealing with a freak like Luck, who it will be a freak of nature thing if he isn't great
 
First round pick Jimmie Ward who I was completely against...has been thrown at 8 times this season. 7 catches and 3 TD allowed.
 
Peterson being investigated on a second child abuse charge, video and texts all over internet, deadspin as well.

People still wanna defend this psycho?

I don't see the problem with it. We need to wait for all the facts to come out because if anyone knows how to raise children, it's black people.
 
Based on what? Certainly not his numbers.

I guess that is what I see when I see him play. I break the QB's into categories and he fits the "great" tier. He doesn't look like a young kid out there. Instead his poise and command of the team screams seasoned vet.

Elite: Peyton, Rodgers, Brees, and Brady

Great: Rivers, Luck, and Roethlisberger
 
Luck last year ranks:

QBR - 18th
Comp % - 23rd
Yards - 13th
Yards/Game - 16th
Yards/Att - 26th (6.7)
TDs - 15th

All that, while being 11th in attempts.....
 
I just see people claiming how great he is and he's just not there yet. Maybe he gets there, but the greatness claims are based on what the expectation were of him and not actual production.
 
Kap has been a better QB up until this point.

Luck came out and was supposed to be the next Rodgers but I don't see that happening. He may reach the Romo/Roethlisberger territory at some point (just talking about regular season stats) but I don't see him ever being as good as the top tier guys or Rivers.
 
LOL at the Luck hate.

He's already elite as far as i'm concerned.

Age 24 563-889 (63%), 6,708 passing yards (224 y/g, 7.5 ypa) 36 td, 17 int, 91.8 Passer Rating
Age 25 737-1,284 (57.4%), 8,737 passing yards (257 y/g, 6.8 ypa), 51 td, 30 int, 81.8 Passer Rating
Age 25 412-664 (62%), 5,243 passing yards (238 y/g, 7.9 ypa), 36 td, 9 int, 99.1 Passer Rating
Age 26 686-1,153 (59.5%), 7,626 passing yards (224 yp/g, 6.6 ypa) 39 td, 32 int, 78.9 Passer Rating
Age 27 1,032-1,691 (61%), 11,913 passing yards (238 y/g, 7.0 ypa) 82 td, 49 int, 86.4 Passer Rating
Age 27 419-696 (60%), 5,495 passing yards (162 y/g, 8.0 ypa) 34 td, 14 int, 93 Passer Rating

Curious that the guy that is considered elite has the 2nd worst numbers of the group.
 
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