GDT: Braves @ Phillies (July 7, 2013, SERIOUSLY)

Julio3000 said:
May not have been a good idea to hack your way into an out. You say "guard the plate" like it's a foregone conclusion that he could control the outcome.
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A good hitter can guard the plate when he needs to by fouling it off. Plus he sure isn't controlling the outcome standing there like a statue. You are talking about a inch or two off the plate and as an umpire myself it is hard sometime to distinguish the difference in those two inches when a pitch is coming in at 90+ MPH. Plus the umpire doesn't have that fancy box that you see on TV. So you should leave it up to the umpire when the ball is that close. And both of those strike outs were too close to take.
 
jason27nc said:
A good hitter can guard the plate when he needs to by fouling it off. Plus he sure isn't controlling the outcome standing there like a statue. You are talking about a inch or two off the plate and as an umpire myself it is hard sometime to distinguish the difference in those two inches when a pitch is coming in at 90+ MPH. Plus the umpire doesn't have that fancy box that you see on TV. So you should leave it up to the umpire when the ball is that close. And both of those strike outs were too close to take.
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the one to BJ was at his ankles and outside. you don't swing at that pitch. it's not "too close to take." it's an obvious ball.
 
AerchAngel said:
Yes I am. If I see a shift on, I would be wearing out that side they aren't guarding (Oberkfell was awesome at this). They put a shift on for a reason, you must think with a high IQ of the not allow teams to put a shift on. You don't see that with Freeman?
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Freeman's fine. I was just disagreeing that he's the only "IQ" guy around...subjective as that is.
 
If we are 2nd place at the All-Star break would you make managing changes because something is obviously not working? Smoke and mirrors can only get you so far.
 
Heyward takes pitches that close all the time. Why doesn't he swing? It's because he knows the strike zone and sees the ball well. If the umpire misses the call then there is nothing you can do about it. More times than not you are going to have more success by waiting for a pitch you can drive than you are "guarding the plate" and swinging at a pitch outside the zone. Chances are you are going to end up hitting it weakly or swinging and missing. I doubt anyone swings with the intention of fouling it off.
 
Julio3000 said:
Freeman's fine. I was just disagreeing that he's the only "IQ" guy around...subjective as that is.
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Be as it may. I am talking about hitting awareness and Freeman is the only one who would "GUARD" the plate when down 2 strikes. Watch the batters head when they strike out. I rarely see their head down or their swing being cut down to make contact. The are flailing. This is what we mean IQ when you are at bat. Andruw had this issus as well until he learned he can go the other way with authority and Dale Murphy was awesome as soon as he quit pulling everything.

All these players can go the other way with authority and don't do it. I hate to say Harper has better discipline than most our team as we saw he several opposite field homers on outside pitches. Freeman is the only one I see can do that regularly.
 
jason27nc said:
A good hitter can guard the plate when he needs to by fouling it off
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Well, no one ever accused BJ being a good hitter So, QED for you, I guess.

But, repeating yourself doesn't make you any more right. If it were as easy as you make it sound, we'd probably have a lot more .300 hitters. And fewer .400 OBPs.
 
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