Official off-season trade rumor and suggestion thread
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MadduxFanII
Swallowed by Mark Bowman
Wouldn't have been a bad price at all. But the Giants, sadly, are obviously a much more desirable destination right now. And I continue to think our best option is just to let Terdoslavich play every day for a couple months.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
dak
Well-known member
Wow, great value. I just got a little bit more depressed about the Markakis deal.
dak
Well-known member
[MENTION=1675]dak[/MENTION]
Guess 5M per year is too high of an estimate for aoki right
Ha, I don't know . . . my $7m doesn't look too bad really. He has $1.5m in incentives and it sounds like he would have gotten more to sign elsewhere.
In all seriousness though, my 7 guess was based on a two year deal assumption, and his market just doesn't seem as strong as I would have thought. So this is probably the point where I should say, you were right and I was wrong. I'll do my best to get you on the next one.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
And we probably cover most of the top 5.
dak
Well-known member
For me, the only two that were clearly worse than the Markakis deal were . . .
SEA gives 35 year old Nelson Cruz 4 / $58m and surrenders their first round pick.
NYM gives 36 year old Michael Cuddyer 2/ $21m and surrenders their first round pick . . . 15th pick at that.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
To me, what makes those two deals worse than the Markakis signing is that the decisions of Seattle and New York really reek of slightly-impotent desperation; the Braves' choice, on the other hand, just smells like a mix of diffidence and indifference.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
All I've seen so far is what MLBTR projected him to make this year, 5.1 million. Further, one guess I read was $5.5 million from Minor's camp with the Braves camp being around $4.75 million. That sounds about what I'd expect too and I like the Braves case given Minor is coming off a bad season (largely due to health issues IMO).
Tapate50
Well-known member
Not really, if he took a lot less than the max he was offered as indicated above . He wanted to be in SF and went there at a discount. To some people, that's important
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Wow, now I like the Braves case even more. The Braves offered what he was projected to make.
I wonder if Hart is angling to sign him to multi-year pact, similar to what the Braves did with Heyward last offseason.
Here's an interesting blip about Hart and arbitration from the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
The Indians haven't gone to arbitration since 1991, when left-hander Greg Swindell won and second baseman Jerry Browne lost. It was the Swindell hearing that caused former team executives John Hart and Dan O'Dowd to create a plan that helped produce the longest sustained run of success in franchise history.
Swindell won a salary of $2.025 million in the hearing, but came away mad because of critical remarks made by the attorney representing the Indians. The Tribe offered $1.4 million.
"I remember sitting across the table from John Hart and Dan O'Dowd and being furious that this was the team I played for, but they were telling me how bad I was," said Swindell earlier this week. "I realized it was the business side of the game, but I didn't like it."
Swindell added, "But I won."
Hart, now an adviser for the Texas Rangers, recalled that the hearing was: "a blood bath on both sides. We were on one side and Swindell and his agents, the Hendricks brothers, were on the other. The process was very uncomfortable."
Out of that acrimony, the Indians decided to try to sign their young players to multiyear deals to avoid the pitfalls of arbitration. The deals offered young players security at the most vulnerable stage of their careers in exchange for signing away their arbitration years and, in some cases, a club option for at least one free agent year.
http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2012/02/post_129.html
Here's an interesting blip about Hart and arbitration from the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
The Indians haven't gone to arbitration since 1991, when left-hander Greg Swindell won and second baseman Jerry Browne lost. It was the Swindell hearing that caused former team executives John Hart and Dan O'Dowd to create a plan that helped produce the longest sustained run of success in franchise history.
Swindell won a salary of $2.025 million in the hearing, but came away mad because of critical remarks made by the attorney representing the Indians. The Tribe offered $1.4 million.
"I remember sitting across the table from John Hart and Dan O'Dowd and being furious that this was the team I played for, but they were telling me how bad I was," said Swindell earlier this week. "I realized it was the business side of the game, but I didn't like it."
Swindell added, "But I won."
Hart, now an adviser for the Texas Rangers, recalled that the hearing was: "a blood bath on both sides. We were on one side and Swindell and his agents, the Hendricks brothers, were on the other. The process was very uncomfortable."
Out of that acrimony, the Indians decided to try to sign their young players to multiyear deals to avoid the pitfalls of arbitration. The deals offered young players security at the most vulnerable stage of their careers in exchange for signing away their arbitration years and, in some cases, a club option for at least one free agent year.
http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2012/02/post_129.html