Chris Johnson - NL Batting Leader

Heyward said:
This he's not a good defender crap is stupid.

He's not elite but I'm not seeing it where he's an abortion at third either and should be a DH. His defense is much better than some are saying.
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If you can show me something that says he's at least average then I'll stop saying he's a crap defender but...
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BremanFan88 said:
Above average? I'm not even sure he'd be average. I think CJ is a .350 BABIP guy which would be pretty damn good if he had another part of the game to compliment it. But he doesn't. He's probably a .280 hitter but would have like a .320 OBP and average at best with the glove. That's nothing special and easily replaceable.
I hope the Braves actively look for a replacement/upgrade and if they can't manage anything then La Stella should get a shot. At least he can get on base if nothing else.
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Complete disagree that is easily replaceable.

Hell most everyone here wanted Fat Juan playing over Chris. All Fat Juan can do is hit HRs.

Chris is a solid player that people just don't like because they missed it. Its happened before and it will happen again.

If people want to trade Uggla then they can't trade Chris too in the same off-season. Assuming Lestalla is the 2B or 3B next year. Their is nothing on the free agent market for 3B and the braves don't have anyone knocking the door down to play 3B. I think people need to realize Chris is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Wren would need to trade Uggla for a starting 3b or 2B and not take back much salary. Thats not going to be easy.
 
BremanFan88 said:
Above average? I'm not even sure he'd be average. I think CJ is a .350 BABIP guy which would be pretty damn good if he had another part of the game to compliment it. But he doesn't. He's probably a .280 hitter but would have like a .320 OBP and average at best with the glove. That's nothing special and easily replaceable.

I hope the Braves actively look for a replacement/upgrade and if they can't manage anything then La Stella should get a shot. At least he can get on base if nothing else.
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Completely disagree he's easily replaceable.

3B is a really weak position league-wide.

I haven't looked at the FA market but not sure there is much out there in the 3B department.
 
Heyward said:
Completely disagree he's easily replaceable.

3B is a really weak position league-wide.

I haven't looked at the FA market but not sure there is much out there in the 3B department.
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Third Basemen
Wilson Betemit *
Eric Chavez
Mark DeRosa
Mike Fontenot
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Brandon Inge
Placido Polanco
Mark Reynolds
Juan Uribe
Kevin Youkilis
Michael Young

I might would consider putting Omar Infante and Kelly Johnson on the list but I wouldn't consider them more of a 3B. They are more 2B that might could play 3rd.
 
Heyward said:
So should the Tigers replace Miggy because he's not a great defender?
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I think this is where you don't understand where I'm coming from. Miggy's offense overwhelmingly covers up how bad he is at defense so it's just something you have to deal with. CJ doesn't do that. If you're hitting .280 with little pop and OBP skills you're not making up for your poor defense.
 
skidlee said:
Third Basemen
Wilson Betemit *
Eric Chavez
Mark DeRosa
Mike Fontenot
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Brandon Inge
Placido Polanco
Mark Reynolds
Juan Uribe
Kevin Youkilis
Michael Young
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Youk and Reynolds are the only ones that intrigue me a little.

Outside of that, barf.

I can understanding selling high if someone blows your socks off. But just trading him for a few so so prospects no way.

I'd like to see Uggla dealt this winter and LaStella be the everyday 2B.
 
Heyward said:
So should the Tigers replace Miggy because he's not a great defender?
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This really isn't a serious question, is it? Look at his wOBP and wRC+. What he brings is offense, and a HELL lot of it. Whatever deficiencies he has defensively is obliterated by his offensive value.
 
Heyward said:
Youk and Reynolds are the only ones that intrigue me a little.

Outside of that, barf.

I can understanding selling high if someone blows your socks off. But just trading him for a few so so prospects no way.

I'd like to see Uggla dealt this winter and LaStella be the everyday 2B.
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If people complain about Chris's D @ 3rd I would love for them to watch Mark Reynolds for a week.

Youk just can't stay healthy. I would want something else over him.
 
BremanFan88 said:
I think this is where you don't understand where I'm coming from. Miggy's offense overwhelmingly covers up how bad he is at defense so it's just something you have to deal with. CJ doesn't do that. If you're hitting .280 with little pop and OBP skills you're not making up for your poor defense.
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Again, I'm not seeing it where he's an atrocious defender.

I'm not saying he's the best defensive player in baseball but I just don't see it where people say he's a butcher on defense at 3rd. I really do not. Hell, Fredi has left him in tight games lately and not used Janish as a defensive replacement.

Pedro Alvarez isn't great defensivley, should the Pirates get a new 3B?
 
Gary82 said:
This really isn't a serious question, is it? Look at his wOBP and wRC+. What he brings is offense, and a HELL lot of it. Whatever deficiencies he has defensively is obliterated by his offensive value.
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I was joking on Miggy, chill lol.
 
skidlee said:
Complete disagree that is easily replaceable.

Hell most everyone here wanted Fat Juan playing over Chris. All Fat Juan can do is hit HRs.

Chris is a solid player that people just don't like because they missed it. Its happened before and it will happen again.

If people want to trade Uggla then they can't trade Chris too in the same off-season. Assuming Lestalla is the 2B or 3B next year. Their is nothing on the free agent market for 3B and the braves don't have anyone knocking the door down to play 3B. I think people need to realize Chris is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Wren would need to trade Uggla for a starting 3b or 2B and not take back much salary. Thats not going to be easy.
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Guess it depends on your definition of solid...

"I think people need to realize Chris is here to stay for the foreseeable future."

Then that will be unfortunate.
 
Yeah, CJ isn't winning any Triple Crowns. I would trade him with the right offer, but we would need to get some substantial value in the deal that involves finding a long term solution at third.
 
skidlee said:
If people complain about Chris's D @ 3rd I would love for them to watch Mark Reynolds for a week.

Youk just can't stay healthy. I would want something else over him.
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Or Michael Young.

Third base is such a weak position around the league. I would just keep him unless a team offers a haul which is unlikely.
 
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