sturg33
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NO WE WILL ALL HAVE TO WORK FOR $0.01 AN HOUR!!!!
Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours...
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NO WE WILL ALL HAVE TO WORK FOR $0.01 AN HOUR!!!!
sturg33
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There you go... let the market work
sturg33
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You don't need high skill workers for the jobs we're talking about... cashiers, fast food, call centers, etc.
IT is often gone overseas because we don't know how to do it as Americans. Our entire IT department is Indian people... and these are domestic jobs
And like I said, the market works for skilled workers.
I worry about the impact of screwing millions of unskilled workers.
How are you being screwed? You clearly make a decent salary and spend all day talking about sports.
sturg33
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But we don't know what the breakeven point is because of the minimum wage. I am certain companies would pay more to keep jobs inland than ship them overseas. It would be a lot easier to manage and much more productive.
How much more? I have no idea... clearly not 8X more
I don't, not in the slightest, but we're talking about political rhetoric here. A little 'hoo-rah, let's make jobs' talk.
Luckily for me I am able to multi-task and get all of my work done.
I happen to grasp ideas quickly.
I would rather work at a place where I know my hours are stagnant and that there isn't an endless supply of work to be done when you get your current work completed.
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
I guess Steaky is wrong, there are no other IT people on here?
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That's because Musk's business model (direct sales) has been stone-walled nationwide by the auto 'industry'.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
If you want good cashiers, fast food employees, call center employees, etc. you better pay them. If you've ever worked in the service industry, you'd realize that a lot of people are ****ty people. Nothing you do will satisfy them. Someone with a gift at dealing with ****ty people should be compensated. If you pay people small amount of money to do a ****ty job, you're gonna get ****ty results. There's a reason that most companies ditched outsourcing customer service.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
That's not the reason, but it does contribute to the factor. THey're a growing company, they're investing revenue in R&D and other costs.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Sure. But in that case, I think some of the initial responses in this thread—that Bush, in particular, needs to tread carefully, lest he look to be shoveling **** with a silver spade—aren't so off-base. I'm sure he's worked pretty hard in his life, despite his substantial leg-up to begin it; but that leg-up has the potential to give him perception problems (both amongst Republicans and the general populace) if he looks to be talking down too much—especially since he doesn't have the down-home doltish "charm" of his older brother.
Half of these companies are monopolies masquerading as "free market". They're all offering to pay peanuts compared to what they use to. Either that or so many of them are outsourced that people are forced to work these lower wages because they don't have a choice. If you think it's a "free" market then you are insane. It's all fixed man. Some of us are just able to still live comfortably regardless of it.
God forbid he worry about someone other than himself.
It is absolutely a huge reason. It's driving up expenditures for the company across the board and cutting into profit immeasurably. I think you underestimate the impact of not being able to sell your product the way you want, a way that just happens to be extremely cost-efficient and consumer serving (oddly enough).
I think it's a given that the company is young and still growing, but that growth has been stunted by the American automaker 'chaebol'.
My whole point in bringing up Tesla was to use it as an example of a company that the government needs to be bending over backwards to accomodate. They've forced a renaissance in the industry in so many important ways; renewed focus on fuel efficiency, auto tech, American job creation (in NEVADA) ...
If a firm is willing to hire someone else at lower wages than you make or desire, then you haven't set yourself apart and aren't worth the extra money it would require to keep you. Companies number 1 goal is and should be profit. A company that is paying someone more than what they could pay an alternative option isn't a company I want to invest my money in.
thethe is whining about free overtime while making a decent salary and spending 75% of his workday posting about the brightness of the Braves organization. Furthermore, he is "succumbing" to the same behavior he's railing American Corporations for. If you don't find that hypocritical, that is your right.
sturg33
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Additionally, he is leaving his job for a higher paying one. Which is the employee equivalent of a company paying less for a different worker
sturg33
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In the first few pages of this thread - thethe was clearly including himself in the victims crowd... he has since changed his tune though
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Solutions? It's largely been a state issue: in Illinois, for example, direct-sales are permissible—there are Tesla stores in Chicago; in other states, they had been allowed, but powerful in-state lobbies cajoled (read: bought) legislators' hands and pens. But automobile sales are not alone in this regard: any industry in which middle-men have carved out a fat stake for themselves watches this issues crop up at the state level (see: craft beer versus distributors lobbies).
It sucks—but, in the case of craft beer (and not to go all sturg on you), once enough people wanted the product, the distributors wised and laws were loosened. I'm not sure Tesla can look forward to an eventuality like that, at least any time soon. People need beer, and it turns out they want it to be good, even if it's a couple dollars more for a pint at the bar or a six at the grocery; people need cars, too (a bit unfortunately, I might add), but I'm not sure they want them to be luxury-electric if that means thousands of dollars more.