Farewell to Wood, Peraza, Jimmy Johns, and Avilans.

I ask this as someone who is luke warm at best on this trade . . .

What kind of bat (and contract) do you think Alex Wood could have gotten if traded in the offseason?

As someone else said, either an established player or top prospect.

Olivera is the age of an established player with the track record of a prospect. He has the negatives of both.
 
What if this deal falls through and Olivera winds up being an elite hitter the next 5 years?
 
What if this deal falls through and Olivera winds up being an elite hitter the next 5 years?

What if it goes through, Wood wins a Cy Young, and Peraza consistently puts up a .750+ OPS with great defense?

Because I think mine is more likely than yours.
 
Well yeah, obviously the age matters, but if he has 3-4 good years then the Braves will make out just fine. A player's production isn't worth more at age 26 than it is at 30. The issue is where that aligns with our win curve. I don't think we can contend by next season, but it's also not a ridiculous notion either.

I am one of the biggest Wood fans out there and I like Peraza, but the purpose of acquiring this dearth of pitching prospects was to flip them for position players. I wouldn't have made this exact trade personally, but in a vacuum it makes sense.

I agree but i think since we included Peraza as well we should have gotten more.

Austin Barnes and Olivera, along with a couple others would have made sense, oh well.
 
I agree but i think since we included Peraza as well we should have gotten more.

Austin Barnes and Olivera, along with a couple others would have made sense, oh well.

Agreed. The deal felt like it was missing a player that's for sure.
 
This trade reaks of a front office falling in love with a guy and letting it affect their better judgment. Hart and Co love Olivera so much they've let it distort reality.
 
There is no way in hell yanks turn down Judge for Wood. Or really any team with a non top 5 type hitting prospect that is looking for pitching.

I tend to agree with you, though I'm probably also not as high on Judge as some.
 
I ask this as someone who is luke warm at best on this trade . . .

What kind of bat (and contract) do you think Alex Wood could have gotten if traded in the offseason?

Likely less than now because there will be a large number of pitchers available just for money (not talent going the other way) who are as good or better. The time to deal him IS now most likely but getting a 30yo question mark with no ML experience and a iffy medical history is not what I was thinking. Then throwing in Peraza on top of that.....
 
I think this trade illustrates the strategic challenges involved in trying to convert a stockpile of pitching into hitters. Acquiring proven low risk hitting talent is going to be prohibitively costly in the current era. So you will have to take risks on guys like Olivera. There are certain things to like about Olivera. The scouting reports indicate he is a polished complete hitter. Certainly not a hacker.

But what we are seeing is that the approach the Cubs have taken to rebuilding (stockpiling young hitting talent) is much better strategically in the current era than the one we have been taking.
 
There is no way in hell yanks turn down Judge for Wood. Or really any team with a non top 5 type hitting prospect that is looking for pitching.

Yankees wouldnt deal Judge or Severino for Hamels, they would turn that down..
 
Somebody please wake me, I'm having a terrible dream.

This can't be real, can it? Can it?

I've liked pretty much everything that Hart and Co have done upto this point, but this one scares the living hell out of me.
 
I think you're pretty low on your estimate of Wood's salaries moving forward. If he's not tied up for his arbitration years, I could see him at $40 MM for the timeline you've laid out provided his performance remains steady.

Very well could be.
 
I think this trade illustrates the strategic challenges involved in trying to convert a stockpile of pitching into hitters. Acquiring proven low risk hitting talent is going to be prohibitively costly in the current era. So you will have to take risks on guys like Olivera. There are certain things to like about Olivera. The scouting reports indicate he is a polished complete hitter. Certainly not a hacker.

But what we are seeing is that the approach the Cubs have taken to rebuilding (stockpiling young hitting talent) is much better strategically in the current era than the one we have been taking.

Don't you dare question the Braves Way©
 
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