Dansby Swanson article "Homecoming"

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From Jeter's sports website,

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/da...=10153453922402831&adbpl=fb&adbpr=35071097830

I can’t wait for my first big league at-bat at Turner Field, and I hope it’s this year, but right now I’m embracing the lessons of the minors. I’m starting to see how the minors prepare you for the Bigs. You might think the biggest difference between college ball and the pros is pure talent. But more than anything, I’m learning that the difference is consistency.
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Dansby better work quick, this year will be his only chance!
 
I've read the same about Ozzie Albies—a hard worker and, even as one of the youngest guys on his team, a leader. It's really cool to think about those two guys at the top of the order in a couple of years.
 
Julio3000 said:
I've read the same about Ozzie Albies—a hard worker and, even as one of the youngest guys on his team, a leader. It's really cool to think about those two guys at the top of the order in a couple of years.
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It's so exciting. I was so skeptical and frustrated about the tear down at first, but I am so excited right now. We have so much promise. Another good draft pick and a smart moves and we are World Series contenders in a couple years. I feel confident saying that.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
It's so exciting. I was so skeptical and frustrated about the tear down at first, but I am so excited right now. We have so much promise. Another good draft pick and a smart moves and we are World Series contenders in a couple years. I feel confident saying that.
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We were world series contenders before we decided to tear everything down
 
mqt said:
Something that 2014 certainly proved!
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Yes... cause one year matters. What about the previous 5 years where we had the same talent.

The 2014 Mets won 79 games. The 2015 Mets went to the world series.

The 2013 Giants won 76 games. The 2014 Giants won the world series.

Crazy I know
 
sturg33 said:
Yes... cause one year matters. What about the previous 5 years where we had the same talent.

The 2014 Mets won 79 games. The 2015 Mets went to the world series.

The 2013 Giants won 76 games. The 2014 Giants won the world series.

Crazy I know
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We've been over this over and over.
It was either stick with what we had and hope to win vs the Mets and Nats. When we didn't win (because we simply didn't have the pitching, and the FO knew it), we lose Heyward and Upton for absolutely nothing but a draft pick. In hindsight, the correct choice was made. I'm not sure how debatable that is at this point.

Instead, we ended up with an amazing deal due to trading Heyward.
 
We had no talent in the minors..the Mets had some guy named Syndergaard and another one named Conforto.

We had no pitching depth anywhere, now we're flush with it.

If we stuck with Heyward and Upton for this past year, we would've been royally screwed for the future. Is that questionable in anyone's mind, at this point?
 
Heyward and Walden turned into Shelby Miller (1 really good year), Tyrell Jenkins, Swanson, Blair, Inciarte......that's a phenomenal return and I know you aren't arguing saying it's not because there is no way anyone can argue that
 
sturg33 said:
Yes... cause one year matters. What about the previous 5 years where we had the same talent.

The 2014 Mets won 79 games. The 2015 Mets went to the world series.

The 2013 Giants won 76 games. The 2014 Giants won the world series.

Crazy I know
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2013 Giants payroll: $137 M at start of season. 2014 Giants payroll: $165 M at season's end

2014 Mets payroll: $84 M at start of season. 2015 Mets payroll: $110 M at season's end
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
Heyward and Walden turned into Shelby Miller (1 really good year), Tyrell Jenkins, Swanson, Blair, Inciarte......that's a phenomenal return and I know you aren't arguing saying it's not because there is no way anyone can argue that
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AND if we kept him and tried to win the WS in 2015 (which we clearly wouldn't have - we didn't have the offense and definitely wouldn't have had the pitching) all we'd have is a draft pick to show for it. Yeah, it's pretty damn obvious we made the right call.
 
I cannot believe some fans still wanted to go for it last year. In hindsight, we'd be totally screwed right now if they did. Our pitching heavily regressed, and we wouldn't have even had our best pitcher from 2015 in the mix, so it would've been even worse. It makes no sense.
 
Do people here believe we could've competed for the WS last year had we kept Heyward and Upton and Gattis? Sincere question. At this point, to me, it's pretty obvious we wouldn't have come close.
 
This is a simple debate..

If we did not trade anyone winter of 2014/2015... our payroll would have been around 90 million...

so you have Wood and Julio as your starter.... Name 3 more starters you would have signed for around 10 to 15 million and still win a WS with the likes of Upton in Center/ CJ at 3rd/ ?? at 2B/CB at Catcher.

Now with no money left.. who is on your bench..

I am pretty sure you are trollin for some bites.. but if you think the 2014 team could have contended in 2015, you are smoking something really strong.. if you have a problem with payroll, then tough luck.. it is what it is..
 
Calm down everyone.

The poster made the point that we tore something down in order to eventually be world series contenders... I countered with the fact that we already had a team who had proven they could contend. Instead, we traded away the biggest haul of young talent I've ever seen a sports franchise do.

The hope is that the return will eventually get us right back to where we were. A team with a lot of young talent who was consistently winning 90+ games... I don't see that happening before 2018 but we'll see.
 
yeezus said:
I cannot believe some fans still wanted to go for it last year. In hindsight, we'd be totally screwed right now if they did. Our pitching heavily regressed, and we wouldn't have even had our best pitcher from 2015 in the mix, so it would've been even worse. It makes no sense.
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Fans who believe building a good team is more important than building a strong organization. I am more for building a replenishable resource of talent. There will be mistakes made..But What the team did is the right direction. hanging on to a team that was hopeless and hoping for the best is foolish.

I think fans who thought we should have just made improvements around what we had are ones who just need to be fans of the Dodger$ or Cub$..
 
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