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reverse "W" thing going on there.... kinda worrisome , kinda throws across his body too (but a lot of tall lefties do that)
 
Compare to Jason Groome:

[video=youtube;0tPe7dybcec]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tPe7dybcec[/video]

Joey Wentz:

[video=youtube;I8F9Xu8KAuM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8F9Xu8KAuM[/video]
 
Just for good measure on Joey Wentz:

[video=youtube;aelpQCekxQo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aelpQCekxQo[/video]
 
Riley Pint:

[video=youtube;KXKL88gS06Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXKL88gS06Q[/video]
 
Groome has the most gentle looking motion I've seen in a lefty in a long time! It looks like vintage 80's Clemens from the left side! There was no profile shot so I couldn't check out his arm action behind his head, but that is one compact, easy throwing motion.

Wentz has a bit of that spin out towards the 3b dugout thing going on, but a lot of lefties do that. He brings his hand low, but the way he brings it back up doesn't appear to be a bad elbow stressor position.

but man that Groome pitching motion! (all of a sudden I am wonderinf if I should switch my allegiance from "Team Lewis" to "Team Groome"
 
riley pint is going to catch a screaming line drive right up his butt with that motion! lol

I know precisely jack **** about pitching mechanics—other than that an inverse "W" is an "M," but that delivery looks awfully hard on the shoulder.
 
I know precisely jack **** about pitching mechanics—other than that an inverse "W" is an "M," but that delivery looks awfully hard on the shoulder.

It's hard to tell from so far away, I'd prefer to see a head on and then a profile. But Pint's motion looks like he spins out a bit to the first base side, which a lot of young hard throwers do. I'd be more concerned that he's trying to light up the gun more than pitch. But, they tend to fix that stuff in the minor leagues.

they call it an "inverse or reverse W" because there is an actual "W" motion as well where the ball never drops below the mid chest and the glove stays vertical. I threw that way. I never pronated my wrist, ball cam back , glove stayed up, long stride and then deliver. It's easy on the elbow but can be hard on the shoulder if your lower body gets out of whack.
 
I'm also listening to mlb.com podcast from last Friday. They said that the Braves front office leans Senzel over any of the college hitters. Yikes.
 
It's hard to tell from so far away, I'd prefer to see a head on and then a profile. But Pint's motion looks like he spins out a bit to the first base side, which a lot of young hard throwers do. I'd be more concerned that he's trying to light up the gun more than pitch. But, they tend to fix that stuff in the minor leagues.

they call it an "inverse or reverse W" because there is an actual "W" motion as well where the ball never drops below the mid chest and the glove stays vertical. I threw that way. I never pronated my wrist, ball cam back , glove stayed up, long stride and then deliver. It's easy on the elbow but can be hard on the shoulder if your lower body gets out of whack.

I'm having a hard time visualizing that, but thanks for the info.

Every time I see inverted, inverse, or reverse "W," and there's a picture involved, I see a freaking "M."
 
I'm also listening to mlb.com podcast from last Friday. They said that the Braves front office leans Senzel over any of the college hitters. Yikes.

And we've also heard they're not even considering him. So what does it all mean? Nothing, until draft day.

But I'd personally be OK with Senzel.
 
And we've also heard they're not even considering him. So what does it all mean? Nothing, until draft day.

But I'd personally be OK with Senzel.

hahaha, man that's so true. Last year I think I heard 30 names dragged around for the top 3 slots.
 
And we've also heard they're not even considering him. So what does it all mean? Nothing, until draft day.

But I'd personally be OK with Senzel.

It would be the type of pick to me that makes me wonder if John Coppy is too stats oriented.
 
It would be the type of pick to me that makes me wonder if John Coppy is too stats oriented.

I agree, stats are great, they are the gravy of the game. BUT, when it comes to young players, scouts should take precedent. raw data alone won't tell the entire story because of many variables like the quality of competition or the size of the ballparks in that league. You need guys who watch these young players all the time to try and decide who is going to have a shot at being an MLB quality player. Heck, one HS league in Arizona does not equal another one in Kansas...etc
 
It would be the type of pick to me that makes me wonder if John Coppy is too stats oriented.

Not sure why, none of the folks that are stats oriented would want us to pick Senzel. He would simply be a high floor, safe pick. Not sure what that would have to do with stats. A stats oriented pick would be Lewis (though I think he fits both stats and scouting).
 
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