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It's OVER 5,000!
true. i'm not arguing against Newcomb at all, as I like him a lot.
TOP 30 PROSPECTS: New Year's Eve Edition
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true. i'm not arguing against Newcomb at all, as I like him a lot.
Good question. Not too many prospects have slipped, some have improved. No one really promoted from the prospect list that I remember. Of course, it could be that they were one of the ones that had Olivera as our top prospect. I guess that could explain some of it.
Probably because every single pitching prospect has disappointed, and Swanson has been mediocre. The only player who has done well is Albies.
Recently sign guys rarely make the top 100 lists because most prospect websites want to see them actually do something as a pro before they are willing to rank them very high. The article actually said "If the three pitchers Atlanta took at the top of its 2016 Draft -- righty Ian Anderson (No. 92), lefties Joey Wentz and Kyle Muller -- live up to their scouting reports, this system could rocket up our next rankings."
Braves only have 5 top 100 guys and the teams ranked above them either have more star power or more players in the top 100.
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Yeah but between then and now, Blair, Newcomb, Swanson, and others have not performed as well as expectations.
They had 5 with Anderson replacing Blair for this one. LA was at #1, also with 5, but they had much better star quality.
The Brewers and Yanks added a ton of talent at the deadline.
And I think folks are underestimating just how poorly the Braves pitching prospects have been this season. Newcomb went from 21 to 58, Blair fell completely off the list (or does 50 IP make him lose rookie status?), and guys like Jenkins, Touki and Sims went from being borderline top 100 guys to not even in consideration.
chop2chip
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Blair graduated.
We really needed Newcomb and Sims to step up this year and they haven't. Although, Touki has been pretty awesome the last 2.5 months. I think he made Baseball America's top 100 midseason ranking.
Because they're stupid.
Yes...yes that makes sense.
Southcack77
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Banuelos and Sims regressed. Blair didn't do well in his first turn.
Folty, Jenkins have graduated.
I never really thought the top of the organization pitching guys were really all that high ceiling, so I'm not sure why it has impacted the rating.
I also think Callis made an early conclusion based on some slow starts of some guys (he tweeted about it a while back) and perhaps hasn't fully revisited the way Allard, Fried, Tooki have fared since.
I think their reaction is a little knee-jerk after the trade deadline -- no way do you have Atlanta as the #2 system, and then AFTER the international signing period and the draft drop them to #9.
Keep in mind, even though I tend to like Callis -- in his UPDATED Braves top-30 he has ManBan at #23 and Bird at #24 - Cruz/Pache/Minter are all unranked.
chop2chip
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Mayo ranked the Braves top 30 for MLB.com
Oops, my bad -- thanks!
People haven't talked a lot about the 4th HS arm we took -- Bryse Wilson has been great so far 15 IP, 1.20 ERA, 16 SO, 2 BB; even though he was picked 109th overall his signing bonus of $1.2 million was equivalent to the 52nd pick in the draft.
Scouting reports on Wilson seem to indicate plus velocity at 92-96 with inconsistent off-speed offerings, he's striking a lot of people out and not really walking anybody yet.
Scouting reports on Wilson seem to indicate plus velocity at 92-96 with inconsistent off-speed offerings, he's striking a lot of people out and not really walking anybody yet.
cajunrevenge
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Personally I would take Mader over Sanchez, Wilson, Weigel, Herbert and Hursh. This is a tough top 30(31) to crack though.