The Don

and if you honestly can't tell the difference in "locker room talk" and what he was saying, you obviously aren't going to understand what he was saying isn't locker room talk

he wasn't saying, "man, Jennifer has nice tits and stems. i would like to **** her"
 
Well I've said things in the past about good-looking women in less mature days I wouldn't be proud of. This was a grown man bragging about how he could get away with what amounts to sexual assault. So there's a distinguishable difference. And I think character matters in picking presidents, governors, etc.
 
And I'm a father, but have a son. i don't have a daughter yet but know I'd punch Trump in the face if he called mine a piece of ass. Any of you guys out there with daughters think it's OK to sign off on calling your daughter a piece of ass?
 
The egg is on the GOP faces. They could have stopped his rise years ago with the start of the birther crap. Their fear and hated of the black man in the white house allowed this foolishness. They refused to stand up to the crazy tea party nuts and their racist garbage.

Im loving this as a black woman. I think sweet revenge for Obama would be after he leaves the white house he gets some lawyers together to work for free on a slander lawsuit against Trump for the Central Park 5. Hell id donate money to support that case.
 
bravesnumberone said:
And I think character matters in picking presidents, governors, etc.
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Agreed. But some food for thought; Americans, in recent years, have shown a willingness to 'forgive' politicians who have transgressed into these type of waters when the individuals are transparent and contrite about it. Mark Sanford is a sterling example, but Anthony Wiener was polling surprisingly well when he ran for Mayor of NYC a few years ago before new allegations surfaced. If Donald Trump has a spitting chance in hell - which I believe he still does - then he has a find a way to bluntly tap into that sympathetic vein of the electorate on Sunday night ... while assailing Hillary in the very next breath. What a tightrope.

The 'pussy' question will almost assuredly lead the debate. Will Trump be as prepared as Newt Gingrich was for John King's question about his preference for open relationships during the SC GOP primary debate in 2012? Gingrich nailed it, hands down won the debate (and the primary, which was not expected) less than a minute in. I honestly don't think Donald will, and expect him to spend literally the entire night on the defensive. A true white flag moment. I'm going to be watching and I suspect a whole helluva lot of other people are too.

If he can somehow redeem himself from this ... he will win the election.
 
Hawk said:
Agreed. But some food for thought; Americans, in recent years, have shown a willingness to 'forgive' politicians who have transgressed into these type of waters when the individuals are transparent and contrite about it. Mark Sanford is a sterling example, but Anthony Wiener was polling surprisingly well when he ran for Mayor of NYC a few years ago before new allegations surfaced. If Donald Trump has a spitting chance in hell - which I believe he still does - then he has a find a way to bluntly tap into that sympathetic vein of the electorate on Sunday night ... while assailing Hillary in the very next breath. What a tightrope.

The 'pussy' question will almost assuredly lead the debate. Will Trump be as prepared as Newt Gingrich was for John King's question about his preference for open relationships during the SC GOP primary debate in 2012? Gingrich nailed it, hands down won the debate (and the primary, which was not expected) less than a minute in. I honestly don't think Donald will, and expect him to spend literally the entire night on the defensive. A true white flag moment. I'm going to be watching and I suspect a whole helluva lot of other people are too.

If he can somehow redeem himself from this ... he will win the election.
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Idk if I'd say redeem, but if he survives this, he most certainly will win. And that says a lot about Hillary Clinton.
 
he wasn't going to win before this. Electoral College math /path is where it is and will only go up in HRC 's favor. Not Trumps

Regardless the Wiki Leaks revelations of the past few days
 
which is not new news. Bernie has been saying this all along.

The damage to Trump is who he lost. My opinion is the only people that care about the HRC revelations are the 20-30% that still think she killed ...

She won't lose support -Trump already has.

Time is on her side
 
I think people are underestimating the new voters Trump is going to bring in. People who don't normally vote or normally don't vote Republican. The DNC said as much in their own emails. They expect Donald to out perform polls by 3-4 percent.
 
Hawk said:
The 'pussy' question will almost assuredly lead the debate. Will Trump be as prepared as Newt Gingrich was for John King's question about his preference for open relationships during the SC GOP primary debate in 2012? Gingrich nailed it, hands down won the debate (and the primary, which was not expected) less than a minute in. I honestly don't think Donald will, and expect him to spend literally the entire night on the defensive. A true white flag moment. I'm going to be watching and I suspect a whole helluva lot of other people are too.

If he can somehow redeem himself from this ... he will win the election.
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He'll defend himself by calling it locker room talk and attacking the Clintons, Bill for doing the same and Hillary for enabling him. It's gonna be ugly. I think it was "locker room banter" but by a 59 year old man wearing a microphone who was supposedly on the site of a new job with someone he didn't know well. It was a gross lack of judgement and totally consistent with the 70 yr old candidate for president.

I think Hillary will jab and move but she is going to have to acknowledge the stink of Bill's actions and perhaps even hers. She'll try and ignore her part. It's painfully clear now to the whole human race that this man isn't fit for any government job. Hillary would do well to acknowledge the trainwreck and move on. For the sake of decency, what there is left of it, I hope it doesn't spiral into a screaming match.

Is Dr. Phil free to moderate?
 
cajunrevenge said:
I think people are underestimating the new voters Trump is going to bring in. People who don't normally vote or normally don't vote Republican. The DNC said as much in their own emails. They expect Donald to out perform polls by 3-4 percent.
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They are already accounted for. Before this he had to win, every swing state.

Number of voters he brings in is irrelevant. Where he brings them in. That is what will count
 
Runnin said:
He'll defend himself by calling it locker room talk and attacking the Clintons, Bill for doing the same and Hillary for enabling him. It's gonna be ugly. I think it was "locker room banter" but by a 59 year old man wearing a microphone who was supposedly on the site of a new job with someone he didn't know well. It was a gross lack of judgement and totally consistent with the 70 yr old candidate for president.

I think Hillary will jab and move but she is going to have to acknowledge the stink of Bill's actions and perhaps even hers. She'll try and ignore her part. It's painfully clear now to the whole human race that this man isn't fit for any government job. Hillary would do well to acknowledge the trainwreck and move on. For the sake of decency, what there is left of it, I hope it doesn't spiral into a screaming match.

Is Dr. Phil free to moderate?
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Apparently Trump just retweeted Juanita Broaddrick accusing Bill Clinton of rape, so I think you may be right in assuming that he's going to take that route - and that it will be ugly.

I've personally never seen the value in attacking Bill. At the end of the day, even though she has used him on the campaign trail, Hillary is not Bill. It's just not compelling stuff. A direct attack on Hillary would be much more effective.
 
Hawk said:
I've personally never seen the value in attacking Bill.

That's because there isn't any, except for the Repub base. Just like the emails and Benghazi, it only plays to the their base. If he wants to actually win he needs to not just apologize, but just admit, "hey it was a stupid thing to say, I"m not proud of it, but I did it and I admit/own it, unlike some people we know..." or something pretty close along those lines, and then maybe lay out a couple of actual plans. Given the American voter's 3 minute attention span he could turn all this to his advantage, as effing nuts as that seems.
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