parkvadawg
Still Playing the Waiting Game
Yepper
GDT 8/28/13: Indians (Masterson) @ Braves (Maholm) 7:10 PM
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Yepper
VirginiaBrave
Well-known member
Best team we've had in a long time.
Teheran_49
Danville Rookie
Oh you mean the three years where Schafer had less than 200 AB's and was constantly in BC's dog house because of his immaturity? Are you a new fan to the Braves or did you just not know this? How about how immature Schafer was and how he got into a home run frenzy and got away from his game. We know what B.J is and how do you know Schafer hasn't turned the corner? I think he's finally matured and becoming the player the Braves were so high on. Please don't even bring up the Houston stats because I'd be depressed if I had to play for Houston as well. Losing night in and night out will make anyone throw in the towel.
If Schafer was given 550-600 AB's I don't think it would be absurd to think he would hit .250-.270 with close to 50 XBH and an OBP .340-.350 and steal over 40 with ease. He will K 100-120 times but I think his defense may be better than Upton's but I'm sure some stat head will show some stats that say other wise but I don't go by that I go by what I see and BJ isn't on Schafer's level as far as range goes. Ok say I give BJ the benefit of the doubt and he hits what he did in 2011 which was .246/23/81 with an OBP of .330(which happened to be the highest since 2008) and he stole 36 bags but k'd 160 times. So would BJ's 2011 season be worth 13 million more than a guy who hits lead-off that would hit no worse than .250 with an OBP of .330+ and swipe well over 40 bases and manufacture runs at the top of the order? If you truly think that then I'm done discussing anything with you.
BlackwaterPark
Approaching Buddy Hernandez Territory
Why do we always suck stealing bases....
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Schafer only played one year under Bobby.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Such a mystery. We destroy great baserunners.
bravesnumberone
Well-known member
It kills me that people aren't able to have a discussion about one of this team's most critical investment simply because we won a ball game in late August.
parkvadawg
Still Playing the Waiting Game
So don't count Houston's stats because he was depressed ( how anyone could deal with being a starting MLB CF'er is beyond me). Don't count the small sample sizes previously because he spot started. However it' s not absurd to think he will have a .350 OBP based on his 50x less sample size of this years spot starts. Am I new to following the Braves or are u perhaps reaching? By the way Schafer career ops .629 (awful and including this year). Forgive me if that doesn't convince me to throw away a 75 million investment. Regardless if its worth 13 more million or not, the money is already spent.
JusticeForAll23
Got the Call to Lynchburg
So that win runs our home record to 46-18. Here's what we've got left at home this year:
CLE - 1x
MIA - 3x
NYM - 3x
SDP - 3x
MIL - 3x
PHI - 4x
So how many home wins do we get? 60 is a long shot, but something like 56-58 wins seems reasonable unless we rest almost everyone during the 7-game home stand to close the season.
I'm guessing 60+ home wins is the record, but anyone know how many teams have won 55+ home games in a season?
CLE - 1x
MIA - 3x
NYM - 3x
SDP - 3x
MIL - 3x
PHI - 4x
So how many home wins do we get? 60 is a long shot, but something like 56-58 wins seems reasonable unless we rest almost everyone during the 7-game home stand to close the season.
I'm guessing 60+ home wins is the record, but anyone know how many teams have won 55+ home games in a season?
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Right? It is a valid discussion.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Maholm has been one of our best pitchers at home.
drewdat
Well-known member
Record is 65-16 by the 1961 Yankees (or by win %, 62-15 by the 1932 Yankees). Not sure there's a good (free) way to find the other answer.
drewdat
Well-known member
Actually there was. It's 94 teams that have won at least 55 home games in a season (since 1901, no adjustment made for 154 game seasons). The Braves did it in '96, '98, '99, '03, and '10.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Good win, we needed it since Nats are going to sweep Miami (and have the Byrdless Mets next). Hopefully we can sweep tomorrow.
That said, Gattis hasn't started in 6 days and counting again. As I said yesterday, if this continues I doubt he'll be able to shake the rust to help us later on (including in the playoffs). We need to start playing Gattis more to get him going again.
That said, Gattis hasn't started in 6 days and counting again. As I said yesterday, if this continues I doubt he'll be able to shake the rust to help us later on (including in the playoffs). We need to start playing Gattis more to get him going again.
Teheran_49
Danville Rookie
Schafer is still relatively young and he is just now entering the stage where the vast majority of players have their best years and things finally click. Michael Bourn was pretty bad at the plate until he was 26 and even though he's not a world beater he's still pretty damn good. I think Bourn and Schafer are very similar and I do believe that Schafer could be the same type of player if given the opportunity. Obviously the money has been spent but why would FW spend that kind of money on BJ who has lived off the "potential" tag and is now approaching 30. Seems to me the "potential" is more reality. Now if we gave a guy like Ellsbury that kind of money then I'be be fine with that but BJ's so called proven track record is that he can hit 25 HR's and steal 30 bases while striking out 150+ times with a pedestrian OBP and BA that plays solid defense.