What bias? Even the Marlins got a 700K attendance boost when they opened. It's pretty common for virtually every new stadium. Attendance this year does matter.
4/18 GDT: GNATS VS BRAVES
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What bias? Even the Marlins got a 700K attendance boost when they opened. It's pretty common for virtually every new stadium. Attendance this year does matter.
The amusing thing is they continue to deny their motives.
I don't think you've actually been to the area thethe... based on what I saw the Battery isn't going to save the Braves if the attendance is not good. They're also banking on the parking spots that they own. Those parking spots aren't exactly going to be profitable if nobody goes to the games.
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Is it? How do you know?
Population trends are postie indicators for Cobb. Of course my knowledge of the area pales in comparison to someone like you who lives and breathes Georgia but it should be clear what the braves group sees as the future of Cobb county.
Attendance should be way up this year because:
It's early but I am worried that we've been below average. This is a brand new park. The fresh and cool effect should be able to hold at least until the end of summer.
- Theoretically we had a better team coming into this season on paper than last year.
- Brand new park effect.
- Team's intent was to move to the suburbs to get closer to core base of people they claim purchased tickets. They kept talking about this point, and I suspect if they kept talking about it htey really thought it'd make a big difference and add numbers to attendance. So far that hasn't proven to be true.
It's early but I am worried that we've been below average. This is a brand new park. The fresh and cool effect should be able to hold at least until the end of summer.
Looking at other stadiums that have opened recently that's been the common thread on how much attendance went up. If the Braves can't even match what the Marlins did then it's a failure. The FO telling you otherwise is a spin job.
There's only so many middle class, caucasian Dansby Swanson fans can keep going to every homegame.
If you look at teams that opened new stadiums in the last decade, there was always an attendance boost even despite the team's on-field performance.
At the rate we're going, we're maybe on pace to be below the 2012 Marlins. And if that's the case that's not good at all. A lot of the Battery isn't even open and won't be until next year. So it will have been a big loss for the team.
Marlins drew 1.5m in 2011. It's easier to build off of a **** attendance figure in a major market.
If the area continues to see 5-8% population growths for the forsee able future then there will be plenty.
Just looking at recent years we were playoff team or late into season contending:
2013: averaged 31k, 8th out of 15 in NL
2012: averaged 29k, 8th out of 16 in NL (Chipper's last season)
2011: averaged 29k, 8th out of 16 in NL
2010: averaged 30k, 9th out of 16 in NL (Bobby's last season)
2006-2008 where we were meh we still averaged 30k+
With the FO selling the point of being closer to the burbs selling more tickets + brand new stadium boost that other teams have received in their inaugural seasons, I fully expected us to be average at minimum 30k on weekdays at minimum. The FO went with a smaller stadium capacity because they felt they would be able to sell out 42k capacity easier with the team being closer to their "core fanbase of ticket purchasers".
So I have to think, even if Kemp comes back and we're first in the NL East, I really see it being an uphill climb to average 31k+ on a weekday night like this in the summer. If we're falling flat now it's gonna be tough to see us all of the sudden shooting up numbers.
I know there's some logistical issues with highways and interstates being messed up, but to me that would have a bigger effect on those in South, Southeast Atlanta coming to the games than Northeast, Northwest Atlanta. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. The demographic the Braves already alienated in the first place, would be the ones effected most by the interstate issues trying ot attend the games at the moment.
How about Pittsburgh? Minnesota? Eve Washington had a 400K increase for a team that had only been in the city for 3 years. Braves should see a significant increase.
No offense but this is crazy talk.
The Atlanta metro area is ranked right behind the Miami one. The Atlanta market isn't big like New York but it ain't small either. It has well than more enough people to sell out games, not even including the many people that traveled to see the games from out of towners (the TBS generation).
And they are already trending higher than last year.
That's really not saying much.
Heading into last year I think even casual fans knew the team was going to be garbage with that opening day roster.
So now not all increases are created equal?
Again... an increase was expected at minimum because it's a new park and we have a better team on paper than last. But so far it's not living up to the increase and numbers it should be for a new park and a stadium that's situated closer to the real fanbase that bought tickets as the team claimed.
Why is that hard for you to differentiate?
Braves are up 12% from last year and they opened up with the Nats and cards. It was also a bigger stadium wit cheaper tickets. So using those numbers I think not only will the braves make more money they will get bigger draws as the season progresses since SD is done
Through 5 games last year. 148322. So far this year? 165,795. One of the issues is capacity. Braves sold out opening night and then Saturday at 41K. A Turner Field sellout is 48K. I'd give until the middle of May to see where our attendance figures are trending.
edited: for typo