Luis Robert Leaves Cuba

So Coppy gets dinged for not saving money to sign a prospect that no one knew would post (and still may not) this international period. #Enschefflogic
 
Hahn gets serious props for extending those guys when he did at the values he did. No question there, and they turned into great assets. I have yet to be amazed by his transactions or personnel decisions.
 
smootness said:
Hahn gets serious props for extending those guys when he did at the values he did. No question there, and they turned into great assets. I have yet to be amazed by his transactions or personnel decisions.
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Honestly, I think Hahn is a victim of baseball personally. He had talent to be better, but the results never materialized. Rodon/Sale/Q is a solid 1,2,3.. for whatever reason nothing worked for that team and they were smart enough to rebuild when they did. However, I am happier with Coppy and his decisions at this point.
 
zbhargrove said:
So Coppy gets dinged for not saving money to sign a prospect that no one knew would post (and still may not) this international period. #Enschefflogic
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Don't you have a signature to change? Or did the Braves get the Ace your logic dictated they would, and I missed the press release?
 
bravesfanMatt said:
Honestly, I think Hahn is a victim of baseball personally. He had talent to be better, but the results never materialized. Rodon/Sale/Q is a solid 1,2,3.. for whatever reason nothing worked for that team and they were smart enough to rebuild when they did. However, I am happier with Coppy and his decisions at this point.
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Betcha the White Sox don't make rebuilding mistakes equivalent to the Markakis signing, watering down Kimbrel's value by attaching BJ to him, watering down Simmons' value by insisting they get a MLB SS in return, trading young assets for Olivera, and then compounding the mistake by trading for Kemp.

I guarantee they don't water down the value of their most valuable assets to clear payroll to acquire MLB guys they don't need like Coppy did. That is where Coppy failed in this rebuild, and now we can watch Hahn avoid the same mistakes and maximize the prospects they get in return for their MLB assets.

I bet they also never get a gift from Dave Stewart to cover up for any shortcomings of their rebuild.
 
Enscheff said:
Betcha the White Sox don't make rebuilding mistakes equivalent to the Markakis signing, watering down Kimbrel's value by attaching BJ to him, watering down Simmons' value by insisting they get a MLB SS in return, trading young assets for Olivera, and then compounding the mistake by trading for Kemp.

I guarantee they don't water down the value of their most valuable assets to clear payroll to acquire MLB guys they don't need like Coppy did. That is where Coppy failed in this rebuild, and now we can watch Hahn avoid the same mistakes and maximize the prospects they get in return for their MLB assets.

I bet they also never get a gift from Dave Stewart to cover up for any shortcomings of their rebuild.
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You sure are basing your love of the White Sox rebuild on a whole lot of bets and assumptions.

Using your logic, though, is every single major league piece they keep and spend money on keeping them from maximizing the value of the rebuild? So any international talent that doesn't sign with them, or any draft pick they fail to acquire, or any trade they don't make, means Hahn is a mediocre GM and the rebuild is simply plugging along like any other would. This is a video game, where there is no context and there are no negative repercussions, correct?

By the way, the White Sox are the leaders for Robert if he moves into the next signing period, but it's been said they will also consider blowing past their pool in this period to sign him as well. So please tell me, if they are contemplating blowing past their pool after the fact for one guy (someone who is certainly a top international talent but not some kind of generational star), then how is their decision not to go ahead and blow past it in July not a mistake?
 
Enscheff said:
Don't you have a signature to change? Or did the Braves get the Ace your logic dictated they would, and I missed the press release?
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1. You've never told me the signature you want me to change it to. I always live up to my bets so you can stop worrying.

2. The season hasn't started yet

3. Typical you to not address the actual issue brought up

Will they trade for one at this point? Likely not, but I'm not changing my signature until I have to... why would I?
 
zbhargrove said:
When have I hedged anything? The terms were explicitly by the start of the season. Now do you not understand how to count years?
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that was to me because I set stipulations on a bet.. something like if someone doesn't pitch x number of innings, then the bet is voided OR extended. He didn't like adding legitimate terms to a bet so he cried and I just said forget it.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
that was to me because I set stipulations on a bet.. something like if someone doesn't pitch x number of innings, then the bet is voided OR extended. He didn't like adding legitimate terms to a bet so he cried and I just said forget it.
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He likes to cry and he's an a$$, but for some reason, I kinda like the guy
 
Ask and you shall receive Enscheff... you had a chance to give me the signature you wanted, but I think I'll stick with the one I just made.
 
Enscheff said:
Ahh yes, the team that has routinely taken on risky pitchering prospects, most of whom come with the additional risk of significant injury and/or well established control issues, is suddenly not willing to take the risk that comes with the best international prospect currently available.

You're probably right though, the additions of Colon and Dickey were done in an attempt to add "names" to the roster to cater to the naive fans. It's just too bad they decided to spend the cash on 40 year old players who will help during a losing season instead of a 19 year old player that could impact a minimum of 6 competitive seasons.

Seems like a good allocation of resources to me! Braves way baby!
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The braves just spent a ton of money in the international market and have a significant number of high upside international hitters as a result.

This guy isn't even cleared yet and they don't know if he'll sign yet. Jumping the gun, I think.
 
Southcack77 said:
The braves just spent a ton of money in the international market and have a significant number of high upside international hitters as a result.

This guy isn't even cleared yet and they don't know if he'll sign yet. Jumping the gun, I think.
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We all see what's happening here...
 
So sounds like he's about to be declared eligible. Astros, Reds, Cards all having private workouts with him. Pads, White Sox and Athletics are also expected to have workouts. Doesn't even sound like we have any interest him. This is a mistake. We should go hard after this guy. We have ZERO elite outfield talent anywhere close.
 
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