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Russ2dollas said:
IMO we have to make some big decisions in the off season. Sims, Wisler and Blair will be sitting on the 40 man. We will be looking at making a big time trade for a TOR and/or 3B. I think we need to know more about Sims, Wisler and Blair so they need to play the last part of the year. We know what Dickey is.
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I think we will acquire a starting pitcher or a third baseman but not both. And third baseman looks to be the more likely of the two.
 
thewupk said:
I think you need to sell high on Freeman if possible. Relievers are very volatile.
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Any reliever who would get back something valuable, I think you should consider it for sure.

I think though the Braves won't end up doing much. The returns just might not justify scrapping their flirtation with .500. But who knows what July will bring right?
 
nsacpi said:
I think we will acquire a starting pitcher or a third baseman but not both. And third baseman looks to be the more likely of the two.
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I would guess the starting pitching. They've been involved in too many talks over controllable starters to make me think they won't eventually pull the trigger on a trade or a signing there.

That seems to be a bigger concern to them than 3B and paying Moustakkos doesn't seem like a wonderful plan.
 
thethe said:
I'd just give camargo extended time there and see if he has a power surge.
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If I am the front office, the only way I really see contending in 2018 is by acquiring a #1 or #2 starter, and catching some lightning with Teheran, Folty, and Newcomb. So if you are inclined to spend assets maybe that is where you go. Unfortunately, you've already made it clear that you don't think you can afford SP through FA and the acquisition cost is likely to be pretty hefty in prospects and that doesn't make a ton of sense either.

You can maybe marginally upgrade 3B in one player, but its' likely to be expensive and maybe you just muck through with Camargo, Rodriguez, Ruiz, even Garcia in some kind of platoon that maybe gives you average or slightly above production if you are lucky.
 
nsacpi said:
I think we will acquire a starting pitcher or a third baseman but not both. And third baseman looks to be the more likely of the two.
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If the Braves exercise their option on Dickey there won't be a need to add a pitcher.

Newk may be getting unsustainable results, but he has proven he deserves a spot in the 2018 rotation. Folty and Julio are obvious locks. That leaves one spot for all the AAA arms to compete for, with the rest being depth in AAA.

We will see just how serious the FO is about competing next year based on how they address 3b. If they decide to "see what they have" again, they have effectively punted 2018. If they make an addition like Mous or Frazier we know they are serious...even if we don't like the move itself.
 
Southcack77 said:
If I am the front office, the only way I really see contending in 2018 is by acquiring a #1 or #2 starter, and catching some lightning with Teheran, Folty, and Newcomb. So if you are inclined to spend assets maybe that is where you go. Unfortunately, you've already made it clear that you don't think you can afford SP through FA and the acquisition cost is likely to be pretty hefty in prospects and that doesn't make a ton of sense either.

You can maybe marginally upgrade 3B in one player, but its' likely to be expensive and maybe you just muck through with Camargo, Rodriguez, Ruiz, even Garcia in some kind of platoon that maybe gives you average or slightly above production if you are lucky.
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And that makes you the guy who fills his garage with thousands of dollars of tools, and then pays to have his oil changed.

Congrats on using your resources in the least efficient way possible.
 
Enscheff said:
And that makes you the guy who fills his garage with thousands of dollars of tools, and then pays to have his oil changed.

Congrats on using your resources in the least efficient way possible.
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I'm not sure what that means, but thanks man.

I would not make any major acquisitions to try and contend in 2018 if I were the Braves. I think if they were minded to give it a shot, fixing 3B with the available free agents isn't likely to be very helpful.
 
Southcack77 said:
I'm not sure what that means, but thanks man.

I would not make any major acquisitions to try and contend in 2018 if I were the Braves. I think if they were minded to give it a shot, fixing 3B with the available free agents isn't likely to be very helpful.
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I think it's overstated how much of an upgrade the braves need to contend for a WC spot. The improvement will come from Albies over Phillips and Folty/Newc being better in 2018 than they were in 2017.

Anything you get from Acuna over Markakis is icing on the cake. As of now this is basically a 500 team. Won't take much to make it a high 80 win team.
 
Southcack77 said:
I'm not sure what that means, but thanks man.

I would not make any major acquisitions to try and contend in 2018 if I were the Braves. I think if they were minded to give it a shot, fixing 3B with the available free agents isn't likely to be very helpful.
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It means that if the FO flips pitching to acquire MLB pitching they have improved the roster in the most inefficient way possible.

Stockpiling pitching prospects is only a defensible strategy if the goal is to grow the bulk of the rotation internally. It is not the most efficient use of resources, but it is likely a viable path to constructing a championship caliber rotation.

If the goal was to acquire prospects that would then be flipped into MLB pitchers, it was stupid to focus so much on pitching prospects that are inherently more risky and less valuable. If the goal was to flip prospects in trades, they should have been stockpiling more reliable and valuable position prospects.

If they didn't have an overall goal or plan...well, that wouldn't surprise me in the least. If they trade for an Archer or Quintana we will know for sure they had no overarching plan at all.
 
If you're expecting Albies to produce more next year than what Phillips has done to this point you'll likely be disappointed.

Acuna doesn't need to be in Cobb County until September 2018, and then only for a cup of coffee until after the Super 2 cut off.
 
DirkPiggler said:
If you're expecting Albies to produce more next year than what Phillips has done to this point you'll likely be disappointed.

Acuna doesn't need to be in Cobb County until September 2018, and then only for a cup of coffee until after the Super 2 cut off.
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You're probably right outside of a ridiculous start from Acuna next year.
 
Imo our best hope for being better is Frazier at 3b. I don't know all the new Cba rules but I doubt coppy is coughing up a pick.

Maybe ff a 3b isn't a disaster and we can move kemp to 1b and find a decent lf. Maybe Dustin Peterson will have power back by then but I doubt it.

The only way I see us getting a tor is if they take a high aav short term deal like 2/50. I don't see that actually happening.

Rays aren't moving archer unless they bend us over. Q looks more like a 2/3 and will cost 2 of our top 6 so no way I do that.

So the only reasonable thing seems to be signing Frazier for 3b and albies being a stud without Flores turning into a pumpkin.

Best thing neck will ever do is block Acuna
 
Enscheff said:
Acuna has cooled off considerably. There is no reason not to give him a full season in AAA next year.
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Forget results

Albies and Acuna may be similar in age but Albies has 4 years of pro ball

Acuna will essentially have 1.25 years of at bats next year. He should get a full year in aaa...at least till roster expansion. Neck block
 
Enscheff said:
It means that if the FO flips pitching to acquire MLB pitching they have improved the roster in the most inefficient way possible.

Stockpiling pitching prospects is only a defensible strategy if the goal is to grow the bulk of the rotation internally. It is not the most efficient use of resources, but it is likely a viable path to constructing a championship caliber rotation.

If the goal was to acquire prospects that would then be flipped into MLB pitchers, it was stupid to focus so much on pitching prospects that are inherently more risky and less valuable. If the goal was to flip prospects in trades, they should have been stockpiling more reliable and valuable position prospects.

If they didn't have an overall goal or plan...well, that wouldn't surprise me in the least. If they trade for an Archer or Quintana we will know for sure they had no overarching plan at all.
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IT would just depend on what the trade was, but I doubt I would like any trade that landed an Archer. Still he's controlled through 2022, I think.
 
Southcack77 said:
IT would just depend on what the trade was, but I doubt I would like any trade that landed an Archer. Still he's controlled through 2022, I think.
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He is signed through 2021. Archer is really good and his contract is insanely good. That being said I have a feeling he will have TJ at some point during the remaining years of his contract.
 
Archer is so insanely valuable nobody here has even proposed a package that's realistic. It would cost at least the same value it took to get Sale, maybe more.

A team that spent 3 years acquiring every pitcher they could get their hands on doesn't pay fill retail price for someone like Archer. They bank on one of the prospects turning into Archer.
 
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