GDT: July 10th, 2013 - Braves @ Marlins - Chris hitting 5th - Pastor SS

Yunel most likely took a dive a few times after the Braves traded Pena. BJ isn't close to that level of cunt.
 
Knowing Paul Maholm he's probably going to pitch 5 shutout innings now after giving up those 4 runs in the 1st inning. He's done it before.
 
thethe said:
You pay a guy for the liklihood he will perform and potential for future performance. Upton has a lot of ability. It looks bad now but I'm not going to go crazy after three months of a 5 year deal. I will say though that you are looking right but the book isn't closed.
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Why do you think he's going to be a different player than he's shown throughout his career? I'd really love to know what you are seeing in him that I'm not. I don't think he has that much ability. I think he's a dumb player. He has power and speed but horrible plate discipline.
 
thethe said:
You pay a guy for the liklihood he will perform and potential for future performance. Upton has a lot of ability. It looks bad now but I'm not going to go crazy after three months of a 5 year deal. I will say though that you are looking right but the book isn't closed.
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Meanwhile Michael Bourn is putting together a good three months in Cleveland for less money.
 
thethe said:
You pay a guy for the liklihood he will perform and potential for future performance. Upton has a lot of ability. It looks bad now but I'm not going to go crazy after three months of a 5 year deal. I will say though that you are looking right but the book isn't closed.
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I didn't and don't have a problem with bringing him here. I do have a problem with not disciplining a guy for not hustling. Bobby benched Andruw Jones for the same thing.
 
ChapelHillMatt said:
Why do you think he's going to be a different player than he's shown throughout his career? I'd really love to know what you are seeing in him that I'm not. I don't think he has that much ability. I think he's a dumb player. He has power and speed but horrible plate discipline.
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He has shown all 5 tools at some point in his career. Guy has power/speed/fielding/throwing. The contact is an issue though but lets see how he does for the rest of the season. Changing leagues is not always easy. Players much better than BJ have had issues in their first years. Don't forget that.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
Meanwhile Michael Bourn is putting together a good three months in Cleveland for less money.
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Is he? Just in relation to Upton. Bourn is not having a great year. He will fall off a cliff halfway through that deal and not be a productive player at all. That is why I didn't want to sign him.
 
thethe said:
He has shown all 5 tools at some point in his career. Guy has power/speed/fielding/throwing. The contact is an issue though but lets see how he does for the rest of the season. Changing leagues is not always easy. Players much better than BJ have had issues in their first years. Don't forget that.
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That switching leagues claim is a such a cop out. It's no excuse for him being lazy.
 
thethe said:
He has shown all 5 tools at some point in his career. Guy has power/speed/fielding/throwing. The contact is an issue though but lets see how he does for the rest of the season. Changing leagues is not always easy. Players much better than BJ have had issues in their first years. Don't forget that.
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Well this isn't the first time I've watched him. I've been watching him for several years now. I'd just say don't hold your breath on his improving. Changing leagues is a cop out excuse imo. Changing leagues shouldn't cause you to be as bad as he has been. It sure hasn't effected Bourn and he went to a better league.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
Meanwhile Michael Bourn is putting together a good three months in Cleveland for less money.
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Bourn put up a great 3 months with the Braves last year and then was completely terrible the last 3 months of the season. And the only reason Bourn is making less money is because teams wouldn't pay him what he wanted at the beginning which was way too much. If the Braves could have gotten him for the price the Indians did then Bourn is probably still here.
 
Dalyn said:
Yunel most likely took a dive a few times after the Braves traded Pena. BJ isn't close to that level of cunt.
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Yeah, I don't get how you can compare the two. Bobby Cox didn't like Yunel...BOBBY COX! Thats all I needed to know about the type of character he is.
 
ChapelHillMatt said:
Well this isn't the first time I've watched him. I've been watching him for several years now. I'd just say don't hold your breath on his improving. Changing leagues is a cop out excuse imo. Changing leagues shouldn't cause you to be as bad as he has been. It sure hasn't effected Bourn and he went to a better league.
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Bourn has been good?
 
thethe said:
Is he? Just in relation to Upton. Bourn is not having a great year. He will fall off a cliff halfway through that deal and not be a productive player at all. That is why I didn't want to sign him.
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Hitting 280 and setting the table for a good Indians lineup.

He's doing his job.

Meanwhile we have a guy that can't get over 180
 
thethe said:
Yeah, I don't get how you can compare the two. Bobby Cox didn't like Yunel...BOBBY COX! Thats all I needed to know about the type of character he is.
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It's just hypocritical imo

If people hated Yunel because he had a bad attitude and was lazy then they should hate BJ as well for the same reasons.
 
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