What should our lineup look like next year?

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Slippyjms

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A combination of seeing so much potential in our lineup and our traditional lineup mismanagement made me wonder with Acuna coming up next year what should our lineup look like. I'm thinking something along the lines of

Albies

Acuna

Freeman

Kemp/Adams

Flowers/Suzuki

Inciarte

Camargo

Swanson

What are everyone else's thoughts?
 
I think that's probably the most balanced, but we'll likely see Inciarte, Albies, Freeman, Kemp, Acuna, Flowers, Camargo/Ruiz, Swanson.
 
Would be curious to know why you think Marakakis would be more likely to be dealt than Kemp.

Just glad that Lucroy has had a sucky season to finally kill off the board fetish with him. Nevertheless, would expect a couple of areas to be addressed for improvement by trade or FA (3rd and another C). They may get more aggressive in pursuit of that fabled #1 starting P also.
 
Slippyjms said:
A combination of seeing so much potential in our lineup and our traditional lineup mismanagement made me wonder with Acuna coming up next year what should our lineup look like. I'm thinking something along the lines of

Albies

Acuna

Freeman

Kemp/Adams

Flowers/Suzuki

Inciarte

Camargo

Swanson

What are everyone else's thoughts?
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I believe that's the ideal lineup.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
I think that's probably the most balanced, but we'll likely see Inciarte, Albies, Freeman, Kemp, Acuna, Flowers, Camargo/Ruiz, Swanson.
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Trade Kemp, Camargo, Wisler & Blair to Miami for Stanton (take all his contract), Prado, Brad Zeigler, Junichi Tazawa and Realmuto: Kemp contract for 2018: ~$19M Braves take on: $25M+$13.5M+$9M+$7M+estimated $1M=$55.5M or net(55.5-19)=$36.5M

Braves trade Markakis for salary relief (-$10.5M), decline option on Dickey (-7.5M), lose Colon obligation (-$12.5M), trade Johnson for salary relief (-4.5M), trade Adams ~$1.5M) = -$37M

Braves lineup:

CF Inciarte
2B Albies
1B Freeman
RF Stanton
3B Prado/Ruiz
SS Swanson
C Realmuto/Flowers
LF Acuna

SP: Teheran, Folty, Newcomb, Gohara, reclamation like Eovaldi (Sims, Fried, Allard, Soroka all at AAA)

Pen: Viz, Zeigler, Tazawa, Minter, Winkler, Freeman, Ramirez, Jackson, Krol, Brothers (somebody will be hurt)

Braves take all of Stanton's contract which no one else is (currently) willing to do. Yes, it likely becomes a bad contract in 7-8 years and hampers the flexibility of the team then but trading away young talent now for help now that isn't as expensive hampers the flexibility in the future as well. It's pick your poison. Prado is around for 2 years. Zeigler and Tazawa are gone after 2018 freeing $16M.

From a Marlins standpoint, they get rid of Stanton's contract without having to pay a dime and move the rest in exchange for Kemp. Prado's 2019 is $15M and Kemp's 2019 is about $19M depending on the convoluted LA-SD-ATL-Miami money transfer.

If you want to pump up attendance and bring in the masses then bringin in the HR leader for the ML and the guy who just passed 61 would be a way to do it.

Won't happen though....
 
Knucksie said:
Would be curious to know why you think Marakakis would be more likely to be dealt than Kemp.

Just glad that Lucroy has had a sucky season to finally kill off the board fetish with him. Nevertheless, would expect a couple of areas to be addressed for improvement by trade or FA (3rd and another C). They may get more aggressive in pursuit of that fabled #1 starting P also.
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I'm not syaing we will, but anyone who was ever interested in Lucroy should be even more interested now in hopes of getting a discount. He's done well since being moved to Colorado. I think he's a very good buy low candidate for someone.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
Trade Kemp, Camargo, Wisler & Blair to Miami for Stanton (take all his contract), Prado, Brad Zeigler, Junichi Tazawa and Realmuto: Kemp contract for 2018: ~$19M Braves take on: $25M+$13.5M+$9M+$7M+estimated $1M=$55.5M or net(55.5-19)=$36.5M

Braves trade Markakis for salary relief (-$10.5M), decline option on Dickey (-7.5M), lose Colon obligation (-$12.5M), trade Johnson for salary relief (-4.5M), trade Adams ~$1.5M) = -$37M

Braves lineup:

CF Inciarte
2B Albies
1B Freeman
RF Stanton
3B Prado/Ruiz
SS Swanson
C Realmuto/Flowers
LF Acuna

SP: Teheran, Folty, Newcomb, Gohara, reclamation like Eovaldi (Sims, Fried, Allard, Soroka all at AAA)

Pen: Viz, Zeigler, Tazawa, Minter, Winkler, Freeman, Ramirez, Jackson, Krol, Brothers (somebody will be hurt)

Braves take all of Stanton's contract which no one else is (currently) willing to do. Yes, it likely becomes a bad contract in 7-8 years and hampers the flexibility of the team then but trading away young talent now for help now that isn't as expensive hampers the flexibility in the future as well. It's pick your poison. Prado is around for 2 years. Zeigler and Tazawa are gone after 2018 freeing $16M.

From a Marlins standpoint, they get rid of Stanton's contract without having to pay a dime and move the rest in exchange for Kemp. Prado's 2019 is $15M and Kemp's 2019 is about $19M depending on the convoluted LA-SD-ATL-Miami money transfer.

If you want to pump up attendance and bring in the masses then bringin in the HR leader for the ML and the guy who just passed 61 would be a way to do it.

Won't happen though....
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Because there's no way on God's green earth that Stanton approves a trade to Atlanta unless you double (or maybe even triple) his salary. There's more chance Aaron Judge is in the Braves' OF in 2018.
 
As for the OP's question..

Inciarte, Albies, Freeman, Kemp/Adams, Markakis, Flowers, Camargo, Swanson
 
clvclv said:
Because there's no way on God's green earth that Stanton approves a trade to Atlanta unless you double (or maybe even triple) his salary. There's more chance Aaron Judge is in the Braves' OF in 2018.
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Why does Stanton have to approve a trade? he doesn't have 10-5 and I don't think he has a no trade... but I could be wrong.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
Why does Stanton have to approve a trade? he doesn't have 10-5 and I don't think he has a no trade... but I could be wrong.
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Yes he does.

Giancarlo Stanton rf
13 years/$325M (2015-27), plus 2028 option

13 years/$325M (2015-27), plus 2028 option
signed extension with Miami 11/19/14, avoiding arbitration
15:$6.5M, 16:$9M, 17:$14.5M, 18:$25M, 19:$26M, 20:$26M, 21:$29M, 22:$29M, 23:$32M, 24:$32M, 25:$32M, 26:$29M, 27:$25M, 28:$25M club option ($10M buyout)
Stanton may opt out of contract after 2020 season
full no-trade protection
award bonuses: $50,000 each for Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, All-Star. $0.1M for league MVP. $0.25M for LCS MVP. $0.5M for World Series MVP
perks: right to purchases 8 season tickets annually and stadium luxury suites for 5 games annually
Stanton to donate 1 percent of salaries to Marlins club charity
largest-ever financial guarantee for MLB player
matches Josh Hamilton for contract with highest average annual value for an outfielder
matches Ryan Howard for contract with highest average annual value for player with four-plus years of ML service
1 year/$5.5M (2014)
re-signed by Miami 1/17/14
1 year/$0.537M (2013)
renewed by Miami 3/2/13
1 year/$0.48M (2012)
renewed by Miami 3/2/12
1 year/$0.416M (2011)
renewed by Florida 3/2/11
1 year (2010)
contract purchased by Florida 6/8/10
drafted by Florida 2007 (2-76) (Notre Dame Academy, Sherman Oaks, Calif.)
signed 8/12/07, $0.475M signing bonus
agent: Joel Wolfe, Wasserman Media Group
ML service: 6.118
 
bravesfanMatt said:
Why does Stanton have to approve a trade? he doesn't have 10-5 and I don't think he has a no trade... but I could be wrong.
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Stanton does have a no trade. But, I've not seen anywhere that he would veto a trade to Atlanta. In fact, if you believe the Braves are through the rebuilding process and on the cusp of contending for a while, why wouldn't you want to play there? And, not that this is an overwhelming factor by any means but not insignificant, he supposedly grew up a Braves fan.
 
clvclv said:
Because there's no way on God's green earth that Stanton approves a trade to Atlanta unless you double (or maybe even triple) his salary. There's more chance Aaron Judge is in the Braves' OF in 2018.
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Triple his salary? Wait what? I'm sure Stanton would be glad to come here for less than $75 million per year.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
Stanton does have a no trade. But, I've not seen anywhere that he would veto a trade to Atlanta. In fact, if you believe the Braves are through the rebuilding process and on the cusp of contending for a while, why wouldn't you want to play there? And, not that this is an overwhelming factor by any means but not insignificant, he supposedly grew up a Braves fan.
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So did the following...

Zack Greinke, Chris Archer, Matt Kemp, Madison Bumgarner, Greg Holland, Corey Seager, Kyle Seager, and more than a few others. When are we trading for the ones out of that group that we don't already have?
 
chop2chip said:
Triple his salary? Wait what? I'm sure Stanton would be glad to come here for less than $75 million per year.
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Kinda need to get your sarcasm meter checked. The point is, Atlanta has to be so far down the list of where he "wants" to be traded to it's comical.
 
clvclv said:
So did the following...

Zack Greinke, Chris Archer, Matt Kemp, Madison Bumgarner, Greg Holland, Corey Seager, Kyle Seager, and more than a few others. When are we trading for the ones out of that group that we don't already have?
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Reading comprehension. Get a little and get back to me.
 
clvclv said:
Kinda need to get your sarcasm meter checked. The point is, Atlanta has to be so far down the list of where he "wants" to be traded to it's comical.
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You are implying that he wants to be in Miami twice as much than he wants to be in Atlanta, which is based on what?

NTC =/= free agent ... his decision is more binary. So, why would he want to play in Miami more than Atlanta? Keep in mind it is rumored that the new Miami ownership group will slash payroll to $75 million.
 
chop2chip said:
You are implying that he wants to be in Miami twice as much than he wants to be in Atlanta, which is based on what?

NTC =/= free agent ... his decision is more binary. So, why would he want to play in Miami more than Atlanta? Keep in mind it is rumored that the new Miami ownership group will slash payroll to $75 million.
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Daydreaming is always fun guys - actually believing those things will ever come to fruition is just funny.
 
clvclv said:
Daydreaming is always fun guys - actually believing those things will ever come to fruition is just funny.
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Nice deflection, but I didn't say it was likely (nor that I would want the Braves to trade for Stanton).

Please, when you get the chance answer my question.
 
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