Camp ends! Finals moves TBA for Opening Day.

[rico43]

Braves Roster
(30 as of March 21 plus 4 NRI)

Pitchers
# Name B/T Ht Wt DOB

57 Rex Brothers L/L 6'0" 210 lbs 12/18/87
51 Shane Carle R/R 6'4" 210lbs 8/30/91
75 Grant Dayton (DL) L/L 6'2" 215lbs 11/25/87
26 Mike Foltynewicz R/R 6'4" 220lbs 10/7/91
39 Sam Freeman R/L 5'11" 180lbs 6/24/87
64 Luiz Gohara (DL) L/L 6'3" 210lbs 7/31/96
68 Jacob Lindgren (DL) L/L 5'11" 210lbs 3/12/93
32 Brandon McCarthy R/R 6'7" 235lbs 7/7/83
40 A.J. Minter L/L 6'0" 205lbs 9/2/93
30 Peter Moylan R/R 6/2" 225lbs 12/2/78
15 Sean Newcomb L/L 6'5" 255lbs 6/12/93
52 Jose Ramirez R/R 6'1" 215lbs 1/21/90
49 Julio Teheran R/R 6'2" 205lbs 1/27/91
38 Arodys Vizcaino R/R 6'0" 230lbs 11/13/90
58 Chase Whitley (DL) R/R 6'4" 220lbs 6/14/89
63 Dan Winkler R/R 6'3" 205lbs 2/2/90

Catchers
# Name B/T Ht Wt DOB
25 Tyler Flowers R/R 6'4" 260lbs 1/24/86
24 Kurt Suzuki R/R 5'11" 205lbs 10/4/83
8 Chris Stewart R/R 6'4" 202lbs 2/1/82
Infield
# Name B/T Ht Wt DOB
1 Ozzie Albies S/R 5'9" 160lbs 1/7/97
17 Johan Camargo (DL) S/R 6'0" 160lbs 12/13/93
16 Charlie Culberson R/R 6'0" 200lbs 4/10/89
27 Ryan Flaherty R/R 6'3" 220lbs 7/27/86
5 Freddie Freeman L/R 6'5" 220lbs 9/12/89
7 Dansby Swanson R/R 6'1" 190lbs 2/11/94
Outfield
# Name B/T Ht Wt DOB
18 Lane Adams R/R 6'3" 220lbs 11/13/89
12 Peter Bourjos R/R 6'1" 175lbs 3/31/87
11 Ender Inciarte L/L 5'11" 190lbs 10/29/90
22 Nick Markakis L/L 6'1" 215lbs 11/17/83
20 Preston Tucker L/L 6'0" 220lbs 7/6/90

 

[nsacpi]

Added to the major league roster on 10/2 (all already on 40-man)

Akeel Morris

Jesse Biddle

Mauricio Cabrera

Aaron Blair

Jason Hursh

All pitchers, of course

Jacob Lindgren, Armando Rivero and Danny Santana are all on 60-day DL as of 10/4 and do not count towards 40-man roster.

by the time of the rule 5 draft we won't be able to stash guys on the 60 day DL

 

[rico43]

by the time of the rule 5 draft we won't be able to stash guys on the 60 day DL

Agreed. But the MLB.com 40-man has not yet begun to sort out the free agents and the DFAs which will come along soon enough. The OP is basically a status report.

 

[cajunrevenge]

I just want Hursh to go away. I just want to vomit anytime I think of our low ceiling high floor college pitcher phase. So man wasted picks. If we get a high ceiling prospect and he busts I understand, can't win em all, but with **** like Hursh the upside was a good reliever. Makes me yearn for Joey Devine. Atleast he had a good name.

 

[clvclv]

Still expecting Frietas, Garcia, Hursh, Motte, and Sanchez to be trimmed to clear room. Another spot clears if/when Dickey makes it official. Wisler, Krol, and one of Jace or Micah Johnson become candidates to be released if even more room is needed.

Not sure we couldn't get every one of them back on minor league deals before camp opens.

 

[Chico]

Still expecting Frietas, Garcia, Hursh, Motte, and Sanchez to be trimmed to clear room. Another spot clears if/when Dickey makes it official. Wisler, Krol, and one of Jace or Micah Johnson become candidates to be released if even more room is needed.

Not sure we couldn't get every one of them back on minor league deals before camp opens.

Motte is a Free agent. He's already trimmed

 

[50PoundHead]

Still expecting Frietas, Garcia, Hursh, Motte, and Sanchez to be trimmed to clear room. Another spot clears if/when Dickey makes it official. Wisler, Krol, and one of Jace or Micah Johnson become candidates to be released if even more room is needed.

Not sure we couldn't get every one of them back on minor league deals before camp opens.

Won't be a big loss or gain depending on the decision, but I thought he played fairly well in September (although one has to take September performance with a grain of salt). Not a horrid 25th guy (just don't ask him to play 1B). Surprising thing with Peterson is that his defense has fallen off. After looking like a decent 2B in his year as a regular, he has really struggled with the glove.

 

[clvclv]

Motte is a Free agent. He's already trimmed

Still on the 40-Man Roster page, but that's correct.

 

[clvclv]

Gotta figure Biddle starts out in camp with a legitimate shot at making Krol disappear for good. He's getting expensive - relatively speaking - and with Minter and Freeman as virtual locks to be the top two lefties in the pen, Lindgren working his way back, and Clouse beginning to knock on the door, it's going to be pretty tough to justify paying Krol a seven-figure salary to be the third lefty down there.

 

[Chico]

Gotta figure Biddle starts out in camp with a legitimate shot at making Krol disappear for good. He's getting expensive - relatively speaking - and with Minter and Freeman as virtual locks to be the top two lefties in the pen, Lindgren working his way back, and Clouse beginning to knock on the door, it's going to be pretty tough to justify paying Krol a seven-figure salary to be the third lefty down there.

I think Lindgren will be out of options unless this year does not count since he was injured all year. Either way I think he and Minter are in the pen come opening day. He started throwing already. I think he'll be good to come back.

Kroll is definitely gone. We missed our window to flip him this offseason after his best season. I think we should flip Freeman for the same reason.

We could have Brothers, Biddle, and Clouse in AAA to start the year with Minter/Lindgren in the Atlanta pen. I'd take that.

 

[rico43]

Outside the box thinking, but four days after the World Series the Royals and Mike Minor have a mutal option at $10 M next year. Since he's now entrenched as a reliever, the $!.25 M buyout makes more sense for the Royals.

Minor in 2017 was 6-6, 2.55 in 65 games and notably closed out the win that ended the Indians winning streak. Allowed only 57 hits in 78 innings (88 strikeouts). He seems good to go and he was a helluva pitcher in 2013 when healthy. Guessing he'll sign for well under $10 M, and since he's only 29, he'd be a good bet for 2-3 years.

 

[Southcack77]

Outside the box thinking, but four days after the World Series the Royals and Mike Minor have a mutal option at $10 M next year. Since he's now entrenched as a reliever, the $!.25 M buyout makes more sense for the Royals.

Minor in 2017 was 6-6, 2.55 in 65 games and notably closed out the win that ended the Indians winning streak. Allowed only 57 hits in 78 innings (88 strikeouts). He seems good to go and he was a helluva pitcher in 2013 when healthy. Guessing he'll sign for well under $10 M, and since he's only 29, he'd be a good bet for 2-3 years.

One thing I noticed about the Royals was a willingness to turn failed pitching prospects into high end relievers.

 

[clvclv]

Outside the box thinking, but four days after the World Series the Royals and Mike Minor have a mutal option at $10 M next year. Since he's now entrenched as a reliever, the $!.25 M buyout makes more sense for the Royals.

Minor in 2017 was 6-6, 2.55 in 65 games and notably closed out the win that ended the Indians winning streak. Allowed only 57 hits in 78 innings (88 strikeouts). He seems good to go and he was a helluva pitcher in 2013 when healthy. Guessing he'll sign for well under $10 M, and since he's only 29, he'd be a good bet for 2-3 years.

Can't recall exactly where I saw it, but they're (KC and Minor) kicking around the thought of putting him back in the rotation next year.

JMO, but I'd pass. We've had terrible luck with most veteran reclamation projects of late - Dat Dude and a precious few others aside - and Mike's likely going to require a multi-year deal to sign. I think he's been a great story, and love those as much as the next person, but we've got plenty of arms that are ready (or close) enough to help ( in the rotation and pen) without committing multiple years to someone that's that big a health risk. I certainly don't disagree with the potential upside, but we're still trying to dig out from under a similar multi-year commitment to Johnson where we bid that second year (against ourselves) for no reason. Nobody else was about to offer JJ a second year other than us - just personally don't want to get into the same kind of situation with Minor. If someone else is willing to give him more than one season, I wish him well - if he's still unsigned sometime in January and wants to talk, then I'd call his reps.

 

[nsacpi]

I think Lindgren will be out of options unless this year does not count since he was injured all year.

He has an option let. The Yankees used up two option years in 2015 and 2016. He spent all of 2017 on the DL (no options used). Gives us some flexibility.

Sam Freeman has no options left.

 

[rico43]

He has an option let. The Yankees used up two option years in 2015 and 2016. He spent all of 2017 on the DL (no options used). Gives us some flexibility.

Sam Freeman has no options left.

Pretty clear now that Freeman is a major league pitcher. Any team that would option him doesn't need him in the first place.

 

[Chico]

Pretty clear now that Freeman is a major league pitcher. Any team that would option him doesn't need him in the first place.

I know it's not a popular opinion, but if you can get a return I'd sell high on Freeman and Ramirez. I'm skeptical of a reliever having career year at 30, and Ramirez seems to be out performing his peripherals.

If it were me Minter, Lindgren, Winkler, Viz are my core with Sims as my swingman and 2 more vet relievers acquired if you could flip JJ or 1 more and JJ...Then stock AAA with guys who have options who could step in whenever needed or force you to trade a guy from your major league pen to make room for them.

 

[nsacpi]

Cabrera, Brothers and Morris are out of options. I think we can still assign those guys to AAA at the end of spring training without risk of another team claiming them. But we won't have the flexibility of optioning them back and forth at will. I'd rather have guys with options too. But guys like Cabrera, Brothers and Morris are not bad to have in AAA.

 

[Chico]

Cabrera, Brothers and Morris are out of options. I think we can still assign those guys to AAA at the end of spring training without risk of another team claiming them. But we won't have the flexibility of optioning them back and forth at will. I'd rather have guys with options too. But guys like Cabrera, Brothers and Morris are not bad to have in AAA.

I thought Brothers had another option

 

[nsacpi]

I thought Brothers had another option

we burned it in
August when we went him down for 10 days...small thing but dumb...asleep at the switch...but then we also screwed up some basic stuff like thinking we didn't have room on the 40 man for Micah and him finding out on twitter about it

gold standard organization...braves way...blah blah blah

 

[BeanieAntics]

Cabrera, Brothers and Morris are out of options. I think we can still assign those guys to AAA at the end of spring training without risk of another team claiming them. But we won't have the flexibility of optioning them back and forth at will. I'd rather have guys with options too. But guys like Cabrera, Brothers and Morris are not bad to have in AAA.

I hope we just kinda stick with Morris and give him a chance to succeed at the ML level. He is one of the few guys that I really believe in. I think he has a chance to be very very good for us. A changeup as good as his is pretty darn rare. I would like to see him utilize his slider more often too, so maybe he does need a little time in AAA to develop that more, but I think he is old enough to just give him an extended look in the majors.