You could acquire Prado as part of a deal to get one the marlins outfielders. 50 pointed it out. Getting a utility guy should not be a difficult task.
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You could acquire Prado as part of a deal to get one the marlins outfielders. 50 pointed it out. Getting a utility guy should not be a difficult task.
A Prado & Yelich or Ozuna deal handles both items with Prado providing support for Camargo if he falters as well as being a backup 1b/2b/3b and when Swanson needs some time you just shift Camargo to ss and Prado to 3b
Hudson2
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That’s what i was thinking. I know that Yelich would cost more but he’s signed a lot longer too. Prado and Yelich i would definitely be in for. Anybody but Gohara, Acuna, Albies, Swanson, or Wright and I’m good with it.
I think we can put together a package excluding those guys that approach the surplus value of a yelich/Prado package.
Now that the Jays picked up Aldemys Diaz, I wonder if Zack Cozart's camp is explaining to him that he's likely going to have to move off SS? MLBTR projected him to sign with San Diego, but does anyone really see them spending that kind of money just yet?
He's not really a perfect fit (and it would obviously be way out there), but he could arguably slot in at 3B for now and give you the option to include Swanson in a trade if someone else is really sold on him. He'd make the infield entirely interchangeable with the ability to play him, Camargo, or Dansby at 2B/3B/SS and Ozzie at 2B/SS. If Riley proves himself and you trade Swanson then you move Cozart back to his preferred spot - and you wouldn't be blocking Riley.
As for Adonis, you just have to figure the only reason he's still here is that he has 1 option remaining - if you don't sign another 3B and a Rio and Camargo platoon flames out over there, keeping Garcia around keeps you from rushing Riley more.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Utility infielders are a dime a dozen. But how much better are they of those available. Typically you are a utility because you are either young and waiting on a position to open (not available) or not good enough to start. We just cut two of those.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Strengthening the left side of the infield is a high priority. Swanson and Camargo might be the solution, but I think it would be very risky to proceed on that assumption. I wouldn't go after a high-priced option like Moustakas. But I would go after someone who can be part of a three-man rotation manning short and third. Options include: Prado, Nunez, Solarte, Cozart, Frazier and Yandy Diaz. I'd be willing to go 3 years on Cozart, Frazier and Nunez. If it takes a longer term deal with those three I'd pass.
Really? What do you think the surplus value of a Yelich/Prado package is?
What group of players from the Braves approximates that value?
You do realize that if the Braves win the bidding for a FA BP arm that means the Braves paid absolute top dollar nobody else was willing to pay, right? How exactly would a player have surplus value a year later in such a scenario?
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I think this is more what I am saying. I feel cutting jace and Danny says that AA is thinking of another option for 3B
He almost has to be.
Unless....
Unless we are about to see a $100M payroll while the Braves “see what they have” with the Camargo/Ruiz/Adonis trio.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Shh. Just channel your inner thethe
Absolute worst case scenario they have about $12M to spend in 2018. I can’t imagine they will be forced to lower payroll below $100M. If they stay cheap in the rotation and BP, they can afford to add Frazier at 3B. A Mous signing wouldn’t surprise me, but I would be mildly against it.
They had to have been clearing payroll as a precursor to making a moderately sized addition, and the most glaring hole on the roster is 3b (assuming they let Markakis play out his contract in LF).
I’m still holding out hope for an Ozuna/Prado package.
Southcack77
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Have the Marlins confirmed a full tear down?
I don’t understand the purpose of selling their good and cheap assets otherwise.
They can probably move Stanton and Prada and get close to the 85-90 range That is supposed to be their goal.
I don’t understand the purpose of selling their good and cheap assets otherwise.
They can probably move Stanton and Prada and get close to the 85-90 range That is supposed to be their goal.
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
I wouldn’t assume either Markakis or Kemp are on the team. AA might be on board with them being sunk costs. Maybe save 3-5 per year trading Kemp and save 7-8 mil for Markakis
You won’t believe anything until it actually happens, but Stanton, Prado and Gordon are as good as gone. We are able to logically deduce that from the information at hand (just like we knew MAdams had no trade value and would be non-tendered).
The Marlins will be eating some of Stanton’s and Prado’s contracts, so they won’t be saving the full value in a trade.
The fact Panik is being discussed with the Giants means Gordon is gone, but luckily his entire contract could likely be traded for little return.
The inclusion of Ozuna is pure speculation because he has positive value and could be used to offset the negative value of guys like Prado and Tazawa, especially if the Marlins get a couple cheap OFers from the Cards for Stanton.
I realize you’re just being contrarian rather than contributing an actual opinion, but that’s how we “know” what we know about the Marlins. All it requires is a basic understanding of player valuation, and then applying a bit of logic to the known data.
Oh I totally agree that’s possible. The issue is how do they find a new LFer? I’ve laid out a few ideas, but the cheapest route would be to allow Markakis to produce 1 win for $11M in LF.
It’s entirely possible the Braves only have cash to improve one position, and the preponderance of evidence (dumping all utility guys but Camargo, stocking the BP with scrap heap arms, 6 viable SP options on hand) points to that acquisition being at 3b.
Southcack77
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You are a weird dude.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I don't want Frazier in the least (and I see his upcoming negotiations being similar to the pursuit of Markakis three years ago in that someone will give him a 4th year and regret it). Curious to see what the market is on Cozart and Nunez.