'Facts' which have not been corroborated. The transcript references 'unknown sources' on numerous occasions. The innuendo is that these 'unknown sources' have Kremlin ties.
Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)
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'Facts' which have not been corroborated. The transcript references 'unknown sources' on numerous occasions. The innuendo is that these 'unknown sources' have Kremlin ties.
I'll tell you what. Putin has to be the greatest man in the history of the world to have control of so many obscure Russia organizations. Its almost as if they are an early version of the Borg. It all goes through Putin like a hive mind.
When it doubt - Say any Russia involvement is involvement with Putin. Oh you want proof of that? Well, everyone knows its true. What more do you need? McCarthyism at its finest.
When it doubt - Say any Russia involvement is involvement with Putin. Oh you want proof of that? Well, everyone knows its true. What more do you need? McCarthyism at its finest.
Can we trust her? Shes obviously a Russia agent taking orders directly from Putin.
bravesnumberone
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How dare you comment on her weight.
bravesnumberone
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That 130K went to her because she had the goods on Trump lifting a coffee mug from Waffle House. I really like those mugs.
Trump doesn't seem like a coffee kind of guy. But the boysenberry syrup from IHOP? Thats my angle.
bravesnumberone
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For a guy as smart as he is, he also doesn't seem like one to cheat on Melania. Waffle House mugs are an easy target.
MR. ROONEY: We are going to get called to votes probably here in the next 10 to 20 minutes, so I'm going to try to do a little bit of a lightning round, if I could. But I just want to - you know, generally speaking, with the stories that you were telling Mr. Schiff, you know, it's interesting that it seems like -- and correct me if I'm wrong --it seems like--they're fascinating, by the way. I mean, the story about him financing Doonbeg in Ireland through money that we can't really trace but has sort of the fingerprints of Russian mobsters. I mean, I just -- it's almost like we need a plus one. And I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it seems like with all this stuff that there's, you know, not the sort of, as what Trey was talking about, allegation versus fact, that, you know, with all those things that we talked - that you talked to Adam about, we never really got to the fact part. Is that true? Or do you feel like with your investigation that you made the
conclusion that you think that those things are true - or not that you think that they are, but they are true?
MR. SIMPSON: I think it's a great question. The - you know, I mean, essentially we ended up spending almost a year on this project. And, you know, it was a private -- because it's all private work in the sense of nongovernmental, without any legal process to compel production of information, we can only reach a certain point. And at the time that we -- you know, that Chris decided to take this to the FBI, I wasn't convinced of the facts of anything in terms of - I wasn't convinced
that there was a specific crime that occurred. I thought it was a possible crime of progress and that there was possibly very serious crimes, but, you know, I'm an ex-journalist, so I'm not really in a position to prove that anyone's engaged in a crime. I mean, you know, sometimes you do find proof of criminal activity in an investigation, but more often than not you find things that are suggestive or raise questions. And -
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Innuendo - And this is what was mainly used (inference based on reporting tonight) to obtain the warrants to spy on an opposition candidate using the full force of the US government.
conclusion that you think that those things are true - or not that you think that they are, but they are true?
MR. SIMPSON: I think it's a great question. The - you know, I mean, essentially we ended up spending almost a year on this project. And, you know, it was a private -- because it's all private work in the sense of nongovernmental, without any legal process to compel production of information, we can only reach a certain point. And at the time that we -- you know, that Chris decided to take this to the FBI, I wasn't convinced of the facts of anything in terms of - I wasn't convinced
that there was a specific crime that occurred. I thought it was a possible crime of progress and that there was possibly very serious crimes, but, you know, I'm an ex-journalist, so I'm not really in a position to prove that anyone's engaged in a crime. I mean, you know, sometimes you do find proof of criminal activity in an investigation, but more often than not you find things that are suggestive or raise questions. And -
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Innuendo - And this is what was mainly used (inference based on reporting tonight) to obtain the warrants to spy on an opposition candidate using the full force of the US government.
bravesnumberone
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Just the first step in unraveling everything.
MR. QUIGLEY: Now, you say you're familiar with peopl,e who do intelligence work. I'm sure you're awarE:: that sometimes they talk about levels of certainty they have, right? Like on any one issue, how many sources they have, how confident they are. In your conversations with Mr. Steele, did he express his level of certainty on these matters?
MR. SIMPSON: So, I mean, l'm not intimately familiar with how the Brits do it, but they seem to do it a little differently. Chris' standard presentation, I mean, essentially, you know, because he's c;3 Russianist, his. standard presentation starts with a little talk about disinformation. Then he says, you know: I was the lead Russianist at Ml6 in the final years of my career. And I was previously stationed in Moscow. And I speak Russian. And I've done Russian ielligence/counterintelligence issues all my life. And the central problem when you're a Russian intelligence expert is disinformation, and that the Russians have, you know, a long history and an advanced capability in disinformation. And so, you know, before we go any further, I just want you to know that, you know, this is my -- the fundamental problem with my profession. And it should be assumed that in a·ny sort of intelligence gathering that you do there will be some disinformation. And I'm trained to spot that and filter it out, but, you know, you should understand that it's -- you know, no one's perfect. And so we've essentially filtered out everything that we think is disinformation and we're not going to present that to you here. We're going to
present to you things that we think come from credible sources, but we're not going to warrant to you that what we - that this is -- that this is all true. And, you know--
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Russians are masters at disinformation but we know the good from the bad. Trust us!!!
MR. SIMPSON: So, I mean, l'm not intimately familiar with how the Brits do it, but they seem to do it a little differently. Chris' standard presentation, I mean, essentially, you know, because he's c;3 Russianist, his. standard presentation starts with a little talk about disinformation. Then he says, you know: I was the lead Russianist at Ml6 in the final years of my career. And I was previously stationed in Moscow. And I speak Russian. And I've done Russian ielligence/counterintelligence issues all my life. And the central problem when you're a Russian intelligence expert is disinformation, and that the Russians have, you know, a long history and an advanced capability in disinformation. And so, you know, before we go any further, I just want you to know that, you know, this is my -- the fundamental problem with my profession. And it should be assumed that in a·ny sort of intelligence gathering that you do there will be some disinformation. And I'm trained to spot that and filter it out, but, you know, you should understand that it's -- you know, no one's perfect. And so we've essentially filtered out everything that we think is disinformation and we're not going to present that to you here. We're going to
present to you things that we think come from credible sources, but we're not going to warrant to you that what we - that this is -- that this is all true. And, you know--
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Russians are masters at disinformation but we know the good from the bad. Trust us!!!
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Going to check this link every day before I open this thread so I can see if it has the trending stuff thethe posts before I even read thethe's posts.
I'm waiting for Trump to now tweet on release the memo. Can't he as President have the power to declassify it as well? You know like how he could have easily declassified any information regards to wiretapping against him.