Discussion of Braves 2018 Offseason plans
- Thread starter Horsehide Harry
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He's not even discussed anywhere else but here. The fact that inquiries have been made about more serious 3B's should us all that we need to know.
I think that was a big part of it. To clear the books as much as possible for 2019. I believe they initially wanted to make a run at Yelich but if the demand was Acuna they wisley passed and moved on. With the Kemp deal it left them very little room for the 2018 team. Only thing left is a possible back loaded deal which AA has mentioned. Cain and/or Moose were targets for that but clearly the suggestions that Cain would go for 3/45-50 were off base and anything beyond that doesn't make sense for Atlanta.
I'm coming around on Camargo. Starting to believe he can our version of Javier Baez. I haven't seen anything from Ruiz to make me feel he's more than a bench piece at best.
5/80 for Cain certainly doesn't make sense. That is clearly an overpay by a team looking to win in 2018.
Expect to see 2-3 more significant moves from the Brewers. Word is Santana is going to an AL team as soon as today. My guess is he goes to Cleveland for Salazar.
Oklahomabrave
Anytime Now Frankie...
Wouldn’t shock me to see us move for Phillips still. Brewers board didn’t seem that interested in discussing Braves trades though.
msstate7
Well-known member
I’m sure the brewers GM will want acuna. We say no. They then trade him for a much less prospect
brewerfan.net has a pretty solid contingent of intelligent posters, but there are plenty of folks over there who not only think Santana can get them Archer, but some who don't think that's a fair trade for the Brewers.
I also got a lot of "the Brewers aren't looking for win now pieces like Teheran for Santana" hours before they traded for Yelich and signed Cain. Needless to say those boards are full of clueless morons...same as all teams.
I don't see any path to the Brewers getting Archer without Brinson, but Odorizzi is a definite option. Santana is too much to pay for Odorizzi, so a trade like that would have to involve other players.
JxnMissFan
Gwinnett Bound
They could sign Matt Adams and flip him for Odorizzi.
The Nats already signed him so they could flip him for Realmuto. They will be paid roughly the same amount in 2018, so it makes too much sense not to happen.
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
Its the right move though. The future is so bright if we dont **** it up. I think the moves made this offseason put us in great financial position to make significant free agent moves next offseason but to also be able to sign our young players that have success in the majors. I know the Braves never seem to make a big splash but I think a big move to reignite fans interest makes sense. Signing Machado would signify to fans the rebuild is over and I think if we move Riley to LF we would have a pretty good team. The rotation should have no lack for candidates. I still think we could be pleasantly surprised this year if a few of the pitching prospects hit the ground running but we need another development year while riding off the bad contracts.
Ask is bound to still be too high.
NinersSBChamps
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It’s a great plan. Return 85% of your roster that lost 90 games and make no good additions in the process. If they are aiming to only lose 88 games then they have the blueprint.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
welcome back man.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
I said it back at the beginning and many times since. If you are going to rebuild then accept up front that it will take a minimum of 5 years, sell your good assets for best package available, tank for at least three years and build waves of young talent that will have a chance to be ready at the end of your rebuild process.
The Braves didn't do that so now instead of having a couple of bad years left as part of a plan they've got a couple of bad years left that will be forced on the team without the benefit of the moves in the plan or the added talent that could have been acquired.
Now you've got a aging and value diminishing Teheran and Markakis, a player in Freeman passing his prime years and heading into an ultimate decline phase and end of contract, the remnants of bad contracts still hanging around that limit what you can do and players being rushed to the ML, burning their control, with no significant impact on the W/L total.
Their plan sucked from the beginning and likely will lead to a very short lived window of opportunity that quickly leads to another rebuild.
The Braves didn't do that so now instead of having a couple of bad years left as part of a plan they've got a couple of bad years left that will be forced on the team without the benefit of the moves in the plan or the added talent that could have been acquired.
Now you've got a aging and value diminishing Teheran and Markakis, a player in Freeman passing his prime years and heading into an ultimate decline phase and end of contract, the remnants of bad contracts still hanging around that limit what you can do and players being rushed to the ML, burning their control, with no significant impact on the W/L total.
Their plan sucked from the beginning and likely will lead to a very short lived window of opportunity that quickly leads to another rebuild.