Parkland School Shooting

I missed the last "left" meeting.
Can't say if being under 18 qualifies or disqualifies you from being a memeber of "the left"

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The ****ing kid can't even vote yet

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Oh yeah we see he is a high school Jr

I think him expressing the desire to punch republicans in the face qualifies him as a member of the left.
 
Hmmm. The advent of social media has certainly changed the equation, but if you read up on the history of the era, you'll find that civil rights and anti-war activists in the 1960s, whose virtue we now accept and adopt almost universally, were rhetorically attacked on the same grounds and often with the same language that contemporary activists are assailed with today.

You, in particular, have posted a lot of negative stuff about various protests and marches. I think it's fair to do a bit of self-inventory and ask what tune you'd have been singing then.

To be clear about this, I see a wide gulf when I compare the people protesting due to the issues in the 60s against the people who went out to yell because their preferred nominee didn't win an election.
I learned in school that one day on a bus an old black lady decided the color of her skin wasn't a good reason to give up her seat. I learned later that the decision was made long before that, and Mrs. Parks was selected for the job because she would be less likely to endure physical assault for it. That didn't taint my opinion of Mrs. Parks or her cause. We all know that Dr. King was human, that doesn't change the fact that he was a great man sacrificing himself for great things.

This guy isn't fit to tie Martin Luther King's shoes and this issue isn't on the same plane as segregation. But you have hit on my point, which is that far too many adults are acting like they are.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalthoff_repeater

The Kalthoff repeater was a type of repeating firearm that appeared in the seventeenth century and remained unmatched in its fire rate until the mid-nineteenth century. As its inventor is unknown, it is named after the Kalthoff gunsmiths who came to be associated with the design.

The Kalthoff had two magazines, one for powder and one for balls (some had a third for priming powder). A single forward-and-back motion on the trigger guard powered a mechanism that deposited a ball and load of powder in the breech and cocked the gun. Within one or two seconds, it was ready to fire again. A small carrier took the powder from the magazine to the breech, so there was no risk of an accidental ignition in the reserve. Early Kalthoff guns were wheellocks, but later they became flintlocks. Some carried six shots, but one claims in an inscription on its barrel to have thirty.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun

A prototype was shown in 1717 to the English Board of Ordnance, who were not impressed. At a later public trial held in 1722, a Puckle gun was able to fire 63 shots in seven minutes (approx 9 rounds per minute) in the midst of a driving rain storm.[1][7] A rate of 9 rounds per minute compared favourably to musketeers of the period, who could be expected to fire between 2 and 5 rounds per minute depending on the quality of the troops, with experienced troops expected to reliably manage 3 rounds a minute under fair conditions; it was however inferior in fire rate to earlier repeating weapons such as the Kalthoff repeater which fired up to six times faster.
 
Hmm, well, if you think frank discussion about what these kids experienced is overcooked, I'm glad that you're comfortable with your take.
 
I think exploiting what these kids experienced in order to make a tawdry, disingenuous political statement is overcooked.
 
What is disingenuous about it? And does their willingness to speak forcefully about it not undercut the allegation of exploitation? I mean, I was basically just disagreeing with your, and others, dismissal of them. They're the ones carrying the weight. Why shouldn't they be heard?
 
What is disingenuous about it? And does their willingness to speak forcefully about it not undercut the allegation of exploitation? I mean, I was basically just disagreeing with your, and others, dismissal of them. They're the ones carrying the weight. Why shouldn't they be heard?

I broke my elbow once and had surgery on it.

But I don't think that qualifies me to speak intelligently about orthopedic surgery
 
Ah yes. Because that's what's happening.

Too bad the "adults" keep throwing up **** against the wall and consider the idea that more heavily regulating the actual weapons might be at least part of the solution to be sacrilege. Oh, and then there's the "adults" pushing "crisis actor" and "false flag op" conspiracy theories. Yes, the latter, many of them part of the alt-right, should be punched in the face.

I notice you and your friends haven't responded much to the data that is being posted in both gun threads
 
And the map in the other thread.

Nsacpi basically said, "interesting, but doesn't change my worldview unless yiu account for 50 things that don't seem to be accounted for"

But...he's right. On the other hand, you've already stated that data to the contrary wouldn't change your opinion. So forgive me if I don't find your admonition for a data-driven discussion to be entirely in good faith.
 
But...he's right. On the other hand, you've already stated that data to the contrary wouldn't change your opinion. So forgive me if I don't find your admonition for a data-driven discussion to be entirely in good faith.

Oh I stated that? Can you point me where?
 
I think offering up a 1 hour national TV special with a completely one sided audience featuring very recently traumatized teenagers isn't the best approach. Do you?

Hmm, well I've already stated that first on the list for me would be a comprehensive, data driven understanding of the subject.
 
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