THURSDAY MINORS ROUNDUP 5/3/18: Time to bump up a few guys

rico43

rico43

<B>Director of Minor League Reports</B>
A look at the career to date stats on Bryce Wilson:

39 games (36 starts), 184 innings, 138 hits allowed, 50 walks, 187 strikeouts, 13-8 record, and 2.01 ERA before last night's 6.2 scoreless start. That actually lowers it below 2.00!
This year, no joke, his ERA is 0.34.
He doesn't even turn 21 until December. But am I the only one who feels that you need to keep challenging guys like this. Move him to AA before June 1.

THURSDAY MINORS RESULTS

All Times Eastern

CLASS AAA

Indianapolis 3, Gwinnett 2

SP: Allard 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K (2.25)
Phillips 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K
LP: Ravin (BS, 0-1) 0.2 IP, 2 H, 0 ER(2R), 0 BB, 1 K (own error led to BS)

Franco 2-4, R
T. Smith 1-4, 2 RBI
Bourjos 0-3, 2 BB
Bautista DNP

CLASS AA

Pensacola 7, Mississippi 1

LP: Mader (1-1) 5 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 3 BB, 3 K
Clouse 0.1 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 1 K
Watts 0.2 IP zeroes
Pike 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K
Webb 1 IP, 1 H. 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, HR

Riley 1-4, 2 K
Neslony 1-3, RBI
Jackson 1-3, 2B

ADVANCED CLASS A

Palm Beach 3, Florida 2

LP: Walker (0-3) 5 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K
Bacon 3 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K (0.36)
Burrows 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K

Pache 2-4, R, BB
Schwartz 1-4, 2B
Michel 1-5, 2B

CLASS A

Rome 8, Lakewood 5

WP: Muller (3-0) 6.1 IP, 7 H,3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K (2.10)
Borkovich 0.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K
Tarnok 2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K

Conteras 2-4, 2 R, HR (2nd), 2 RBI
Lugbauer 3-3, 2B, 2 R
Delgado 2-5, R
Mejia 2-3, R, 2 RBI
 
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I think Wilson needs to be challenged more. Should find out if he's a legit starter or not. I'd like to know how many guys have been as dominant as he's been without the ability to start.
 
Ready to see what allard does tonight. Julio had back issues last start, McCarthy isn't exactly durable, allard's room mate just got promoted, gohara is really struggling... allard could see an mlb start soon if he takes care of business.
 
Super said:
I think Wilson needs to be challenged more. Should find out if he's a legit starter or not. I'd like to know how many guys have been as dominant as he's been without the ability to start.
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I'm good with him being in AA for the rest of the season.

Then next year you let him go at AAA for half the year and if all goes well you might have some options to trade.

I just have no clue what the Braves are going to do with all this pitching. People say a trade is going to happen but for what position? What is really needed? Braves have money so LF is going to be covered. Take that off the list right now as needs moving forward. We have Camargo/Riley to potentially fill third base for the next 5 years. DO you really want to use assets on a catcher? I'd rather just keep cycling in vet guys who frame well and pair them with a young guy like Jackson.

I just don't see a need at all. Its going to be reali interesting where the pitching debt ends up by mid to late 2019. You could legitimately have the following guys all needing a roation spot:

Newk
Folty
Soroka
Allard
Gohara
Wright
Fried
Wilson
Touki
Biddle (long shot)
Anderson (for 2020)

Then you guys coming up the rear like Wentz/Muller/Tarnok/Zimmerman

Its insane what this team has put together.
 
I'd like to see how Wilson deals with failure in High A before being promoted, but at this rate, that might not happen for a while.
 
I never new Wilson scouting report was so similar to Soroka. 94 power sinker. Ok change. Feel and Control of slider that can be a slurve. He attacks zone and considered a ‘bulldog’. Could we potentially have soroka 2.0 before soroka 1.0 hits arb 1?
 
thethe said:
I'm good with him being in AA for the rest of the season.

Then next year you let him go at AAA for half the year and if all goes well you might have some options to trade.

I just have no clue what the Braves are going to do with all this pitching. People say a trade is going to happen but for what position? What is really needed? Braves have money so LF is going to be covered. Take that off the list right now as needs moving forward. We have Camargo/Riley to potentially fill third base for the next 5 years. DO you really want to use assets on a catcher? I'd rather just keep cycling in vet guys who frame well and pair them with a young guy like Jackson.

I just don't see a need at all. Its going to be reali interesting where the pitching debt ends up by mid to late 2019. You could legitimately have the following guys all needing a roation spot:

Newk
Folty
Soroka
Allard
Gohara
Wright
Fried
Wilson
Touki
Biddle (long shot)
Anderson (for 2020)

Then you guys coming up the rear like Wentz/Muller/Tarnok/Zimmerman

Its insane what this team has put together.
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Hate to say it, but may need to use the glut of talent at the top of the minors to trade and replenish the talent in the lower minors. Basically, pushing the talent back by a few years.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I never new Wilson scouting report was so similar to Soroka. 94 power sinker. Ok change. Feel and Control of slider that can be a slurve. He attacks zone and considered a ‘bulldog’. Could we potentially have soroka 2.0 before soroka 1.0 hits arb 1?
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Command of your pitches is the most important attribute to have. Of course this requires a minimum baseline of velocity and stuff. That is why Soroka is so elite.
 
NYCBrave said:
Hate to say it, but may need to use the glut of talent at the top of the minors to trade and replenish the talent in the lower minors. Basically, pushing the talent back by a few years.
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I couldn't agree more.

Ideally what you could do is hope that someone like Folty breaks out and you trade him for a pleathora of young players. Or you think Gohara is risky because of health and you trade him the first year he does well.

Exciting times ahead.
 
thethe said:
I'm good with him being in AA for the rest of the season.

Then next year you let him go at AAA for half the year and if all goes well you might have some options to trade.

I just have no clue what the Braves are going to do with all this pitching. People say a trade is going to happen but for what position? What is really needed? Braves have money so LF is going to be covered. Take that off the list right now as needs moving forward. We have Camargo/Riley to potentially fill third base for the next 5 years. DO you really want to use assets on a catcher? I'd rather just keep cycling in vet guys who frame well and pair them with a young guy like Jackson.

I just don't see a need at all. Its going to be reali interesting where the pitching debt ends up by mid to late 2019. You could legitimately have the following guys all needing a roation spot:

Newk
Folty
Soroka
Allard
Gohara
Wright
Fried
Wilson
Touki
Biddle (long shot)
Anderson (for 2020)

Then you guys coming up the rear like Wentz/Muller/Tarnok/Zimmerman

Its insane what this team has put together.
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I would just keep the pitching. Like you said, we'll have $$ for LF. We may or may not need a 3B, tho. and eventually a catcher, tho maybe not next year. So yeah, i think we're in a good spot. no pressing need to make any particular kind of move. pitchers seem to just keep emerging. feels nice to actually have pitching in the system.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I never new Wilson scouting report was so similar to Soroka. 94 power sinker. Ok change. Feel and Control of slider that can be a slurve. He attacks zone and considered a ‘bulldog’. Could we potentially have soroka 2.0 before soroka 1.0 hits arb 1?
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57.7% ground ball rate this year.

edit: this is before last night's sterling start
 
thethe said:
I'm good with him being in AA for the rest of the season.

Then next year you let him go at AAA for half the year and if all goes well you might have some options to trade.

I just have no clue what the Braves are going to do with all this pitching. People say a trade is going to happen but for what position? What is really needed? Braves have money so LF is going to be covered. Take that off the list right now as needs moving forward. We have Camargo/Riley to potentially fill third base for the next 5 years. DO you really want to use assets on a catcher? I'd rather just keep cycling in vet guys who frame well and pair them with a young guy like Jackson.

I just don't see a need at all. Its going to be reali interesting where the pitching debt ends up by mid to late 2019. You could legitimately have the following guys all needing a roation spot:

Newk
Folty
Soroka
Allard
Gohara
Wright
Fried
Wilson
Touki
Biddle (long shot)
Anderson (for 2020)

Then you guys coming up the rear like Wentz/Muller/Tarnok/Zimmerman

Its insane what this team has put together.
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Weigel
 
Super said:
I would just keep the pitching. Like you said, we'll have $$ for LF. We may or may not need a 3B, tho. and eventually a catcher, tho maybe not next year. So yeah, i think we're in a good spot. no pressing need to make any particular kind of move. pitchers seem to just keep emerging. feels nice to actually have pitching in the system.
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I think they can delay it till late 2019 but you're still looking at guys that NEED to be at the major leagues.

Newk/Folty/Soroka/Allard/Gohara/Wright/Fried IMO need to be starters by quite frankly the end of 2018 but you can push that till 2019. Thats seven guys. SEVEN. Its not a good use of assets to keep that many potential MOR and better guys in your bullpen.

My guess is that Folty/Gohara are going to be traded for a haul of prospects to replenish. Just hope we get those trades right.
 
thethe said:
I'm good with him being in AA for the rest of the season.

Then next year you let him go at AAA for half the year and if all goes well you might have some options to trade.

I just have no clue what the Braves are going to do with all this pitching. People say a trade is going to happen but for what position? What is really needed? Braves have money so LF is going to be covered. Take that off the list right now as needs moving forward. We have Camargo/Riley to potentially fill third base for the next 5 years. DO you really want to use assets on a catcher? I'd rather just keep cycling in vet guys who frame well and pair them with a young guy like Jackson.

I just don't see a need at all. Its going to be reali interesting where the pitching debt ends up by mid to late 2019. You could legitimately have the following guys all needing a roation spot:

Newk
Folty
Soroka
Allard
Gohara
Wright
Fried
Wilson
Touki
Biddle (long shot)
Anderson (for 2020)

Then you guys coming up the rear like Wentz/Muller/Tarnok/Zimmerman

Its insane what this team has put together.
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I think all of the mouth pieces have been clear we are going to make a giant trade this off season. DOB, McCauley, Bowman, etc. We are likely going to use it to get Archer/Stroman/etc....I hate it but it likely happens. Maybe there is another Ozuna or Yelich next year. Yelich would have been great, he was just a year too early.
 
Russ2dollas said:
I think all of the mouth pieces have been clear we are going to make a giant trade this off season. DOB, McCauley, Bowman, etc. We are likely going to use it to get Archer/Stroman/etc....I hate it but it likely happens. Maybe there is another Ozuna or Yelich next year. Yelich would have been great, he was just a year too early.
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maybe Haniger will be our Yelich. Seattle has to blow up their squad soon, and Haniger isn't 23.
 
It has to be a trade for either an elite player or farther away prospects. All the positions look solid, but which ones could we upgrade on? A better CF? Is there a big bat in LF under contract for a couple more years that is better than the second tier free agents coming up? Is there a stud 3B on a non competitive team where Riley + pitching would make sense? Could we turn Dansby + pitching into Tron to upgrade defense behind the young pitching along with the offense?
 
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