What to do with Uggla now?

I just read DOB's interview with Wren. Reading between the lines there, he's gone.

Thank God and Greyhound.

Wren never gave an indication either way. DOB was the one who offered that speculation, and guys, if you're going to reference something that you read, how about linking to it?

http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/atlanta-braves/2013/oct/15/wren-discusses-braves-season-and-future/

Here's the direct word from Wren:

Q. Once Uggla was left off the division-series roster, people outside organization immediately said, ‘Ok, that’s it’ (for him with the Braves). How do you view his future here in Atlanta?

A. “Nothing’s really changed in that regard. I think we made a decision, who was our best 25? And he wasn’t on that roster. We need him to perform better. I mean, that’s plain and simple.”

Q. Do you think things would have been any different if he had used the contact lenses in spring training?

A. “I don’t know. He started using the contacts in the middle of the season and it seemed to get better for a short time, and then it started deteriorating and he had a tough time in August. And then we talked about going ahead and having the surgery, to hopefully correct it to where he had time left in September to make progress. And there really wasn’t a lot of progress. And that really led us to the (playoff roster) decision that we made. I think, hope for Dan’s sake and our sake that he can make some adjustments, and with an offseason of getting used to normal vision, he can make some adjustments. That’s also a function of Walk and Fletch (hitting coaches Greg Walker and Scott Fletcher), I’m sure there will be a lot of work done there as well.”

Then this:

Q. Will you call Dan Uggla at some point to discuss what happened?

A. “I think we’ll let that simmer down a little bit and probably reach out to him and discuss that.”

Q. Is it realistic to think Uggla will be back on this team next year?

A. “I don’t know. I know that every year we make a lot of tweaks and changes to the club and we have to, to keep competing, keep getting better.
 
Hearing #Braves would have interest in #Reds 2B Phillips if Cincy takes Uggla in deal. ATL probably have to include a top prospect.

Per DOB
 
Hearing #Braves would have interest in #Reds 2B Phillips if Cincy takes Uggla in deal. ATL probably have to include a top prospect.

Per DOB

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ugh, that would be such a Wren move to go along with the Uggla and BJ signing....if he does this, I'm done with him.
 
Try to trade him but i dont see how they could without eating close to 20 of the 24 million left on his deal.

I would give LaStella a shot to win the 2B spot though.
 
Uggla > Phillips

Phillips is signed for 4 more years and is shot and a headache off the field.

Uggla is awful.

4 years of BP > 2 years of Uggla.

Not to mention BP is elite defensively while Uggla isnt that great.
 
You can play Uggla or release him. You can do the same thing with Phillips but would delay releasing him for 2 years, same money. Enables you to see what you have and who you will have in 2016 and beyond.

Wouldnt be the worse move but certainly not the most desirable. IMO
 
.261 AVG, 18 HR's, 103 RBI's, while being very good defensively equals shot?

And no planet is Uggla > BP but his contract doesnt excite me.
 
Are people actually thinking an option involving Uggla includes him playing for the Braves next year in anything other than a pinch hitting role?
 
No thanks to Brandon Phillips. We don't need a long term contract on the books. Go with a short term option in FA. Even if Infante wants 2 years 16 million just give it to him.
 
There is no planet or reality in the world where Uggla > Phillips... That being said, 4 year contract doesn't excite me .

Look at it as 2 yr deal since we would be on hook for Uggla for 2 anyways, if the reds were willing to pay Ugglas full salary of course. BP would actually be cheaper for next 2 yrs and then get 13 and 14 million for last 2 years which is not unreasonable for an AS/GG 2nd baseman.

I'm sure he will continue to decline some but he is head and shoulders better than Uggla
 
Are people actually thinking an option involving Uggla includes him playing for the Braves next year in anything other than a pinch hitting role?

If we cant trade him, he'll probably start.

BP, meh, the 4 years left is what worries me more.

Not sure how he'll age.

Probably depends what prospects we'd have to give.
 
There is no planet or reality in the world where Uggla > Phillips... That being said, 4 year contract doesn't excite me .

Both are shot, when one is signed for only 2 years and the other is signed for 4....you take the two years, even if the player isn't as good. Hence Uggla > BP

2013:

Uggla wRC+ = 91

Phillips wRC+ = 91

Uggla wOBA = 303

Phillips wOBA = 307

Uggla OPS = 671

Phillips OPS = 706

Uggla's BABIP was also 50 points lower than his career norm, wereas Phillips was at his norm. So all things considered, they were both rather awful and Phillips was a little better but Uggla was way more unlucky.
 
Ugglas BABIP was so low because he wasn't hitting the ball hard EVERY. He had a 13% LD%. That is almost unfathomable.

Phillips is MUCH better than Uggla especially when you consider defense.

That being said there is no reason to bring that 4 year contract to Atlanta.
 
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