nsacpi
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so coming out for impeachment is going to get his company relief from tariffs...i'm missing something
Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)
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so coming out for impeachment is going to get his company relief from tariffs...i'm missing something
The sooner trump is out of office the more likely the tariffs are removed. As we move on with a strong economy the tariffs and protecting american interests become more appealing to the center of the country.
The populist movement globally has no slowed down as suggested. Amash is more like a member of the old guard and has a lot to lose financially if Trump wins in 2020.
nsacpi
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The Obama-Biden restoration cometh. Maybe Amash will serve in the Biden administration. Trade Representative.
57Brave
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perhaps I missed your opinion on Amash's statements other than you blindly "trust"
" ... Mueller/Amash don't dispute that."
Nor do they dismiss
It would have been easy to say as much. they haven't
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Yes, with regards to obstruction
Rhetorical question ,
Why did they lie and obstruct if there was no "collusion" ?
No one has yet answered that question
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"if the Dems think there is evidence to impeach"
some (D) say there is evidence to impeach.
And no one of any authority . It is the House
and should they Monday AM, to what end.
Who testifies ?
Perhaps people from Trump Inc could shine a light, but they are being prohibited by claims of Executive Privilege.
On who's word would they get an impeachment, AOC --- Bernie Sanders ?
With out the testimony of those on the inside no one can prove a pencil or paper clip was stolen.
I heard yesterday the Statute of Limitations on Contempt of Congress charges are the seating of the next Congress.
This could be tied up in courts for years and years.
(D) can not compel anyone to testify
At that measure, "collusion" as you call it will never be proved.
But why did they lie and obstruct ?
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nsacpi
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Anti-money laundering specialists at Deutsche Bank recommended in 2016 and 2017 that multiple transactions involving legal entities controlled by Donald J. Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, be reported to a federal financial-crimes watchdog.
The transactions, some of which involved Mr. Trump’s now-defunct foundation, set off alerts in a computer system designed to detect illicit activity, according to five current and former bank employees. Compliance staff members who then reviewed the transactions prepared so-called suspicious activity reports that they believed should be sent to a unit of the Treasury Department that polices financial crimes.
But executives at Deutsche Bank, which has lent billions of dollars to the Trump and Kushner companies, rejected their employees’ advice. The reports were never filed with the government.
The red flags raised by employees do not necessarily mean the transactions were improper. Banks sometimes opt not to file suspicious activity reports if they conclude their employees’ concerns are unwarranted.
But former Deutsche Bank employees said the decision not to report the Trump and Kushner transactions reflected the bank’s generally lax approach to money laundering laws. The employees — most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to preserve their ability to work in the industry — said it was part of a pattern of the bank’s executives rejecting valid reports to protect relationships with lucrative clients.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/business/deutsche-bank-trump-kushner.html
It would be good to get to the bottom of this.
The transactions, some of which involved Mr. Trump’s now-defunct foundation, set off alerts in a computer system designed to detect illicit activity, according to five current and former bank employees. Compliance staff members who then reviewed the transactions prepared so-called suspicious activity reports that they believed should be sent to a unit of the Treasury Department that polices financial crimes.
But executives at Deutsche Bank, which has lent billions of dollars to the Trump and Kushner companies, rejected their employees’ advice. The reports were never filed with the government.
The red flags raised by employees do not necessarily mean the transactions were improper. Banks sometimes opt not to file suspicious activity reports if they conclude their employees’ concerns are unwarranted.
But former Deutsche Bank employees said the decision not to report the Trump and Kushner transactions reflected the bank’s generally lax approach to money laundering laws. The employees — most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to preserve their ability to work in the industry — said it was part of a pattern of the bank’s executives rejecting valid reports to protect relationships with lucrative clients.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/19/business/deutsche-bank-trump-kushner.html
It would be good to get to the bottom of this.
nsacpi
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Amanda Miller, a spokeswoman for the Trump Organization, the umbrella company for the Trump family’s many business interests, said: “We have no knowledge of any ‘flagged’ transactions with Deutsche Bank.” She said the Trump Organization currently has “no operating accounts with Deutsche Bank.” She did not respond when asked if other Trump entities had accounts.
Karen Zabarsky, a spokeswoman for Kushner Companies, said: “Any allegations regarding Deutsche Bank’s relationship with Kushner Companies which involved money laundering is completely made up and totally false. The New York Times continues to create dots that just don’t connect.”
Deutsche Bank’s decision not to report the transactions is the latest twist in Mr. Trump’s long, complicated relationship with the German bank — the only mainstream financial institution consistently willing to do business with the real estate developer.
Congressional and state authorities are investigating that relationship and have demanded the bank’s records related to the president, his family and their companies. Subpoenas from two House committees seek, among other things, documents related to any suspicious activities detected in Mr. Trump’s personal and business bank accounts since 2010, according to a copy of a subpoena included in a federal court filing.
Mr. Trump and his family sued Deutsche Bank in April, seeking to block it from complying with the congressional subpoenas. The president’s lawyers described the subpoenas as politically motivated.
Karen Zabarsky, a spokeswoman for Kushner Companies, said: “Any allegations regarding Deutsche Bank’s relationship with Kushner Companies which involved money laundering is completely made up and totally false. The New York Times continues to create dots that just don’t connect.”
Deutsche Bank’s decision not to report the transactions is the latest twist in Mr. Trump’s long, complicated relationship with the German bank — the only mainstream financial institution consistently willing to do business with the real estate developer.
Congressional and state authorities are investigating that relationship and have demanded the bank’s records related to the president, his family and their companies. Subpoenas from two House committees seek, among other things, documents related to any suspicious activities detected in Mr. Trump’s personal and business bank accounts since 2010, according to a copy of a subpoena included in a federal court filing.
Mr. Trump and his family sued Deutsche Bank in April, seeking to block it from complying with the congressional subpoenas. The president’s lawyers described the subpoenas as politically motivated.
nsacpi
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In the summer of 2016, Deutsche Bank’s software flagged a series of transactions involving the real estate company of Mr. Kushner, now a senior White House adviser.
Ms. McFadden, a longtime anti-money laundering specialist in Deutsche Bank’s Jacksonville office, said she had reviewed the transactions and found that money had moved from Kushner Companies to Russian individuals. She concluded that the transactions should be reported to the government — in part because federal regulators had ordered Deutsche Bank, which had been caught laundering billions of dollars for Russians, to toughen its scrutiny of potentially illegal transactions.
Ms. McFadden drafted a suspicious activity report and compiled a small bundle of documents to back up her decision.
Typically, such a report would be reviewed by a team of anti-money laundering experts who are independent of the business line in which the transactions originated — in this case, the private-banking division — according to Ms. McFadden and two former Deutsche Bank managers.
That did not happen with this report. It went to managers in New York who were part of the private bank, which caters to the ultrawealthy. They felt Ms. McFadden’s concerns were unfounded and opted not to submit the report to the government, the employees said.
Ms. McFadden and some of her colleagues said they believed the report had been killed to maintain the private-banking division’s strong relationship with Mr. Kushner.
After Mr. Trump became president, transactions involving him and his companies were reviewed by an anti-financial crime team at the bank called the Special Investigations Unit. That team, based in Jacksonville, produced multiple suspicious activity reports involving different entities that Mr. Trump owned or controlled, according to three former Deutsche Bank employees who saw the reports in an internal computer system.
Some of those reports involved Mr. Trump’s limited liability companies. At least one was related to transactions involving the Donald J. Trump Foundation, two employees said.
Deutsche Bank ultimately chose not to file those suspicious activity reports with the Treasury Department, either, according to three former employees. They said it was unusual for the bank to reject a series of reports involving the same high-profile client.
Ms. McFadden, a longtime anti-money laundering specialist in Deutsche Bank’s Jacksonville office, said she had reviewed the transactions and found that money had moved from Kushner Companies to Russian individuals. She concluded that the transactions should be reported to the government — in part because federal regulators had ordered Deutsche Bank, which had been caught laundering billions of dollars for Russians, to toughen its scrutiny of potentially illegal transactions.
Ms. McFadden drafted a suspicious activity report and compiled a small bundle of documents to back up her decision.
Typically, such a report would be reviewed by a team of anti-money laundering experts who are independent of the business line in which the transactions originated — in this case, the private-banking division — according to Ms. McFadden and two former Deutsche Bank managers.
That did not happen with this report. It went to managers in New York who were part of the private bank, which caters to the ultrawealthy. They felt Ms. McFadden’s concerns were unfounded and opted not to submit the report to the government, the employees said.
Ms. McFadden and some of her colleagues said they believed the report had been killed to maintain the private-banking division’s strong relationship with Mr. Kushner.
After Mr. Trump became president, transactions involving him and his companies were reviewed by an anti-financial crime team at the bank called the Special Investigations Unit. That team, based in Jacksonville, produced multiple suspicious activity reports involving different entities that Mr. Trump owned or controlled, according to three former Deutsche Bank employees who saw the reports in an internal computer system.
Some of those reports involved Mr. Trump’s limited liability companies. At least one was related to transactions involving the Donald J. Trump Foundation, two employees said.
Deutsche Bank ultimately chose not to file those suspicious activity reports with the Treasury Department, either, according to three former employees. They said it was unusual for the bank to reject a series of reports involving the same high-profile client.
nsacpi
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Article from 4 days ago:
President Donald Trump again asked a judge to block subpoenas directing Deutsche Bank AG and Capital One Financial Corp. to turn over his bank records, as well as those of his three oldest children and some Trump businesses.
The Trumps sued in Manhattan federal court last month to block the banks from complying with the subpoenas, issued by two committees of the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives. The action is part of a broader effort by the president to try to block or delay potentially embarrassing House investigations as he runs for re-election next year.
In a court filing Wednesday, the Trumps again asked U.S. District Judge Edgardo Ramos to block the subpoenas until he can make a final ruling on their legality, arguing that the demands for evidence are motivated by improper political considerations. The filing is the first since the Trump side was permitted to see the subpoenas themselves and includes arguments tailored to the specific document demands.
“Never before has Congress used its investigatory powers to rifle through the private financial information of a sitting president, his family and his businesses,” the Trumps argued in the filing.
They argued that letting the demands go forward would mean that “nonstop investigations into the personal lives of presidents” will become “the new normal.” They also claimed it would set a precedent for Congress to subpoena anyone’s financial records without a valid reason.
Ramos has scheduled a hearing for May 22 where he’ll hear argument from both sides on the Trump’s request for a preliminary injunction.
The two banks, which are named as defendants in the case, are mostly sitting on the sidelines, waiting to comply with whatever the judge orders, as the Trumps and the two House committees, the Committee on Financial Services and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, fight over the subpoenas.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...lock-subpoena-for-their-deutsche-bank-records
President Donald Trump again asked a judge to block subpoenas directing Deutsche Bank AG and Capital One Financial Corp. to turn over his bank records, as well as those of his three oldest children and some Trump businesses.
The Trumps sued in Manhattan federal court last month to block the banks from complying with the subpoenas, issued by two committees of the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives. The action is part of a broader effort by the president to try to block or delay potentially embarrassing House investigations as he runs for re-election next year.
In a court filing Wednesday, the Trumps again asked U.S. District Judge Edgardo Ramos to block the subpoenas until he can make a final ruling on their legality, arguing that the demands for evidence are motivated by improper political considerations. The filing is the first since the Trump side was permitted to see the subpoenas themselves and includes arguments tailored to the specific document demands.
“Never before has Congress used its investigatory powers to rifle through the private financial information of a sitting president, his family and his businesses,” the Trumps argued in the filing.
They argued that letting the demands go forward would mean that “nonstop investigations into the personal lives of presidents” will become “the new normal.” They also claimed it would set a precedent for Congress to subpoena anyone’s financial records without a valid reason.
Ramos has scheduled a hearing for May 22 where he’ll hear argument from both sides on the Trump’s request for a preliminary injunction.
The two banks, which are named as defendants in the case, are mostly sitting on the sidelines, waiting to comply with whatever the judge orders, as the Trumps and the two House committees, the Committee on Financial Services and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, fight over the subpoenas.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...lock-subpoena-for-their-deutsche-bank-records
cajunrevenge
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First let's get this no underlying crime business out the way. There was underlying crime found. That is the point of obstructing justice. Trump has NEVER given anyone credit for being innocent no matter how much it is proven. He called for the Central Park 5 to be executed long after they were exonerated.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I've always been impressed with Amash even when I don't agree with him because I don't see him as either an empty suit like Rand Paul and he strikes me as someone who has researched his positions and can back them up. Of course, the Freedom Caucus and the House Republican leadership have disowned him.
Impeachment is next to impossible and I don't think it would serve the country well. Everyone can yell about it, but if Trump is successfully impeached, impeachment proceedings will be greeting every newly-elected President for something or another until the end of time. Don't take this as defending Trump because I think the guy is a shallow moral reprobate who is up to his eyeballs in graft and illegal activity. I've always thought he's been a money launderer for years and maybe we find that out. Is that a crime against the state that merits impeachment, I'd say no. Should that put him in prison once he's done as President? Probably.
nsacpi
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Barring something new dropping on Trump, I don't think any other sitting Republican members of Congress are going to join Amash in calling for impeachment. There are a small number of Republican Senators, older guys whose careers are winding down and who possibly have a longer perspective, who might. But even they are a longshot.
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nsacpi
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“It is simply not fathomable that a Constitution that grants Congress the power to remove a President for reasons including criminal behavior would deny Congress the power to investigate him for unlawful conduct—past or present—even without formally opening an impeachment inquiry."
---judge who immigrated from ****hole country ruling in Trump vs Mazars
#makinggujaratproud
---judge who immigrated from ****hole country ruling in Trump vs Mazars
#makinggujaratproud
Was sad to see Mittens run back to the spineless coward camp.
nsacpi
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If I was to pick one GOP senator to be the first to break from the pack it would be Lamar Alexander.
But there are some other older guys (some of them very conservative and from very red states) who I am also keeping an eye on.
nsacpi
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I hadn't thought about her, but yes she is pretty independent.
nsacpi
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Btw I am not ruling this out. Some possibilities:
1) new info coming out as part of the Stone trial
2) the mystery foreign appellant turning in whatever evidence it is that Mueller has asked for
3) Trump deciding not to comply with a legal order (cuz you know the judge is an Obama judge from a ****hole country)
4) The Deutsche/taxes stuff
5) Other
I think especially if 3 happens it would be very dangerous for Congress to let it pass