That's the problem and goes back to the earlier question I asked - guys like Jackson (and others) may be just fine when used in the right situation in the 6th or 7th. If there's anyone in that pen today that you feel comfortable with in the 8th or 9th to put in there to get 3 outs regardless of who's due to hit, name him.
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That's the problem and goes back to the earlier question I asked - guys like Jackson (and others) may be just fine when used in the right situation in the 6th or 7th. If there's anyone in that pen today that you feel comfortable with in the 8th or 9th to put in there to get 3 outs regardless of who's due to hit, name him.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Of course Braves officialdom will express confidence in Luke Jackson. There is nothing wrong with that.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Snit has to mix and match better. And he has to start pushing the envelope with respect to how he uses Newk.
There have been several tactical mistakes lately, some of which occurred in close games where a single correct move may have scored/prevented an extra run and won a game. In a season where it looks like the Braves will make or miss the playoffs by a small margin, these tactical errors could loom large.
Snit wastes PAs on pitchers, which we saw with Folty in his last start.
Snit fails to build an optimal lineup as seen with Acuna leading off and Swanson batting 2nd.
Snit often makes head scratching BP decisions, though some of these may be due to info we don't have (perhaps Newk was sore last night).
None of these errors lead to dramatically different outcomes, but making a correct decision every time maybe adds 1-2 base runners per week, that leads to 1-2 extra runs per month, that leads to 1-2 extra wins by the end of the season. Add in a few of those types of consistently correct decisions, and it can add a few wins per year. That is the value the Braves are leaving on the table with a poor tactician like Snit in charge.
GeorgiaGirl
NL Rookie of the Year
Acuna has only hit 3 HR with men on. Now perhaps that's due to poor OBP'ers batting at leadoff, but his home runs weren't often coming with men on at cleanup. The thought has been that he's changed his approach there, has tried to be Votto, and tries to get the man in instead of being aggressive which is not completely him. His best self has a hint of aggression.
I think that's it though for him hitting at cleanup. Only other place you might see him at from here on is #2 instead, but he's likely to be leadoff for the ROS unless the Braves have another horrible offensive slump.
I think that's it though for him hitting at cleanup. Only other place you might see him at from here on is #2 instead, but he's likely to be leadoff for the ROS unless the Braves have another horrible offensive slump.
CyYoung31
Shift Leader
Except that he went on a similar tear early in the season batting cleanup. This narrative that he’s magically a different hitter batting in the leadoff spot isn’t correct.
UNCBlue012
Well-known member
You can't teach leadership, though! And my God, Snit has it!!!
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Correct. It is flawed logic or Acuna is a flawed player. If you change who you are because of where you hit the. Someone needs to smack you in the head.
But I don’t think that is the case. He didn’t bat leadoff all the time in the minors nor when he came up. He is a good hitter regardless where he hits. The problem right now is he is literal in the one spot who gets the fewest runners on base (by a good margin). Why someone from the FO has put an end to this is beyond me. I honestly think AA wants Snit to fail so he can get rid of him and bring in his own guy.
salmagundy
Boras' Client
Enscheff--"That is the value the Braves are leaving on the table with a poor tactician like Snit in charge."
Snit would have flunked out of AF War College because he doesn't think "tactics thru" or even understand them. It is becoming more and more obvious every game.
And learning about metrics is akin to trying to teach him to speak Mandarin Chinese.
Snit would have flunked out of AF War College because he doesn't think "tactics thru" or even understand them. It is becoming more and more obvious every game.
And learning about metrics is akin to trying to teach him to speak Mandarin Chinese.
GeorgiaGirl
NL Rookie of the Year
Well, Acuna said he prefers leadoff and AA said that he'd like Acuna at leadoff too, so the Acuna leadoff stuff is beyond Snitker.
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salmagundy
Boras' Client
All that might be true, but looking at Swanson's stats hitting in the 2 hole show the lack of understanding the value of metrics. His 2 hole numbers are worse than those of hitting 6th, 7th, or 8th.
Snitker told the broadcast guys that "Acuna at the top just makes the lineup feel different. He's just a different player with his energy at leadoff".
lol.
I still go with:
Neck
Ron
Fred
Don
Riles
Ozz
Mac-T-Flow
Dans
I know Snit is obsessed with L-R-L-R balance,but Riley should hit 5th and then whatever happens 6-8 doesn't matter too much since Ozzie is switch and Mac and T-Flow can be switched depending on pitcher.
lol.
I still go with:
Neck
Ron
Fred
Don
Riles
Ozz
Mac-T-Flow
Dans
I know Snit is obsessed with L-R-L-R balance,but Riley should hit 5th and then whatever happens 6-8 doesn't matter too much since Ozzie is switch and Mac and T-Flow can be switched depending on pitcher.
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
If Ronald leads, Neck bats second. And both Neck and Freeman have no issues with left-handed pitchers.
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
Or this. Thanks Sav.
GeorgiaGirl
NL Rookie of the Year
Based off backchannels its actually rumored that Dansby #2 was suggested by some in the analytics department. The same guy also suggested Ronald at leadoff. But either way, based on the REAL things I've heard and not backchannel stuff, I wouldn't pin Acuna leadoff on Snitker, I'd pin Acuna leadoff on his preference and AA liking it just as much. Since AA likes it I doubt he tells Snitker to stop, so it's going to be up to Snitker on this and would take a massive offensive slump to change it again.
I think Snit is good at following directions if the directions are relayed to him concisely. We have seen him improve in areas where it's obvious the FO has given him better data to make better decisions. We have heard him comment on several occasions that now is the first time he has seen some piece of data, and it helps him.
The area he still seems to be poor at is deciding what to do on the spot during a game. Short of the FO sitting down with him and going over every single likely scenario and showing him data, I don't think there's any way to fix it. In the postseason they may very well script out the ~20 most likely scenarios so Snit can follow it, but that's not something that can be done every day for 6 months.
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AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
It needs to change, Sav's lineup is ideal to be honest.
Southcack77
Well-known member
While lineup optimization isn't really as significant as we make it out to be sometimes, I agree wholeheartedly with your suggested lineup though I might bat the catcher ahead of Albies the way things have been going.