sturg33
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This is a non answer.
I'm engaged to a doctor. I'm an investor in the pharma space. The data is out for the hospitals who cant survive on medicare rates.
You choose ignorance over data. Sad, but nothing new
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This is a non answer.
I'm engaged to a doctor. I'm an investor in the pharma space. The data is out for the hospitals who cant survive on medicare rates.
You choose ignorance over data. Sad, but nothing new
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It's not math. It's a bargaining issue in a market where sellers have market power. Micro 101.
sturg33
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Right.
And I just told you the buyer's options.
Unless of course the buyer will simply take 40% less?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I dont know if you are familiar with something called monopsony power. It is relevant to our discussion.
Also the American health care system is characterized by exceptionally high administrative costs compared to other countries. It doesnt have to be that way.
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sturg33
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So why cant hospitals survive on medicare rates?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I dont worry about high cost enterprises going out of business. That's the beauty of capitalism and competition. Businesses are born and die every day. We would be better served without such an expensive gold-plated medical care system.
A few years ago my doctor prescribed a statin. I asked him for a cheaper generic one. He was stunned.
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57Brave
Well-known member
as long as the topic is health care, I started Breaking Bad today.
$90,000 for treatments with no ones knowing if they would be effective (efficient)
Under Sen Sanders plan, we never meet Walter White,Jesse,Skyler or Walt Jr
Begs the question, does life imitate art or does art imitate life
Hmm
$90,000 for treatments with no ones knowing if they would be effective (efficient)
Under Sen Sanders plan, we never meet Walter White,Jesse,Skyler or Walt Jr
Begs the question, does life imitate art or does art imitate life
Hmm
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
Well cops are the ones who say they dont get to pick and choose which laws to enforce....
cajunrevenge
Well-known member
You mean the same people who said the country was so amazing after 8 years of Obama that Democrats would win again?
57Brave
Well-known member
Warren Gunnels
@GunnelsWarren
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22h
"The issue is whether the Democratic Party has the guts to stand up
to the healthcare industry which made a $100 billion in profits ...
If we don't have the guts to do that—if all we can do is take their money
—we should be ashamed of ourselves,"
@GunnelsWarren
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22h
"The issue is whether the Democratic Party has the guts to stand up
to the healthcare industry which made a $100 billion in profits ...
If we don't have the guts to do that—if all we can do is take their money
—we should be ashamed of ourselves,"
sturg33
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cajunrevenge
Well-known member
I dont understand what's complicated about the situation. Violence against criminals is the criminals fault....or so we are told..... why is it all of a sudden a bad thing when enforcing gun laws but a good thing when enforcing drug laws. That's some GD bull****. These are the same mother ****ers who cheer violence against marijuana users.
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Or the violence against a couple in their 80s who were tossed around by a SWAT team for illegally growing orchids without a federal permit... Break their hips, the scum!
sturg33
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What side of this issue do you believe I fall?
57Brave
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Andy Richter
@AndyRichter
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Oct 16
“So you’re going to raise my taxes?”
“Yes, but costs go down so much you end up saving money.”
“So you’re going to raise my taxes?”
“Again, yes, but healthcare will be covered & you’ll ultimately spend less.”
“So you’re going to raise my taxes?”
“Are you an idiot?”
“Yes.”
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I doubt we get a M4A in my lifetime but, the willful idiocy of its opponents is alarming.
Perhaps by now, I should be beyond alarm
I'm amazed people taking the side of corporate bureaucracy over elected representative bureaucracy
When you call State Farm or Blue Cross who do you get?
When you call your elected Rep, who do you get?
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Ayn Rand died receiving Medicare and SS
Maybe they were just fictional books after-all !!! Written for 3 AM dorm room pizza,cheap beer and sophomoric discussion
But some never outgrow their idealistic teens
@AndyRichter
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Oct 16
“So you’re going to raise my taxes?”
“Yes, but costs go down so much you end up saving money.”
“So you’re going to raise my taxes?”
“Again, yes, but healthcare will be covered & you’ll ultimately spend less.”
“So you’re going to raise my taxes?”
“Are you an idiot?”
“Yes.”
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I doubt we get a M4A in my lifetime but, the willful idiocy of its opponents is alarming.
Perhaps by now, I should be beyond alarm
I'm amazed people taking the side of corporate bureaucracy over elected representative bureaucracy
When you call State Farm or Blue Cross who do you get?
When you call your elected Rep, who do you get?
////////////
Ayn Rand died receiving Medicare and SS
Maybe they were just fictional books after-all !!! Written for 3 AM dorm room pizza,cheap beer and sophomoric discussion
But some never outgrow their idealistic teens
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acesfull86
Well-known member
“But some never outgrow their idealistic teens”
The race for most ironic post of the year is over people
The race for most ironic post of the year is over people
57Brave
Well-known member
Brian Tyler Cohen
@briantylercohen
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Oct 15
If your healthcare costs are $10,000 now
and your taxes are 25%, your total cost is $12,500.
If Medicare For All brings your costs down to $5,000
and your taxes up to 50%, your total cost is $7,500.
Taxes can go UP & total costs can go DOWN.
Don't take the GOP bait.
@briantylercohen
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Oct 15
If your healthcare costs are $10,000 now
and your taxes are 25%, your total cost is $12,500.
If Medicare For All brings your costs down to $5,000
and your taxes up to 50%, your total cost is $7,500.
Taxes can go UP & total costs can go DOWN.
Don't take the GOP bait.