Official Offseason Thread

If we hadn't already signed Neck I'd be all for it. But we aren't getting rid of Neck so Pederson doesn't really fit.
 
If we hadn't already signed Neck I'd be all for it. But we aren't getting rid of Neck so Pederson doesn't really fit.

Markakis has nothing to do with dealing for Pederson imo. They could still deal Inciarte play Acuna in center. An OF of Ozuna - LF, Acuna - CF and Pederson - RF would be deadly with Markakis/Duvall spelling the guys.

Acuna
Albies
Freeman
Ozuna
Pederson
Flowers/D'Arnaud
Camargo
Swanson
 
Markakis has nothing to do with dealing for Pederson imo. They could still deal Inciarte play Acuna in center. An OF of Ozuna - LF, Acuna - CF and Pederson - RF would be deadly with Markakis/Duvall spelling the guys.

Acuna
Albies
Freeman
Arenado
Ozuna
Pederson
Flowers/D'Arnaud
Swanson

I like where you heads at...but might as well go for it all then. Trade Ender to The Rockies in a package for Arenado...
 
Markakis has nothing to do with dealing for Pederson imo. They could still deal Inciarte play Acuna in center. An OF of Ozuna - LF, Acuna - CF and Pederson - RF would be deadly with Markakis/Duvall spelling the guys.

Acuna
Albies
Freeman
Ozuna
Pederson
Flowers/D'Arnaud
Camargo
Swanson

That OF defense would be a bit on the rough side. Neither Acuña nor Joc should be in CF full time. Although maybe Acuña has spent a lot of time on his CF D this offseason.
 
Markakis has nothing to do with dealing for Pederson imo. They could still deal Inciarte play Acuna in center. An OF of Ozuna - LF, Acuna - CF and Pederson - RF would be deadly with Markakis/Duvall spelling the guys.

Acuna
Albies
Freeman
Ozuna
Pederson
Flowers/D'Arnaud
Camargo
Swanson

The problem with that is it hurts the OF defense pretty substantially. What if Acuna gets hurt? Pederson has proven to be pretty terrible in CF. Yes Pache/Waters are close, but I'd rather not rush them, and they could fall flat on their face too.

Also, I'm not convinced Pederson is much of an overall upgrade over a healthy Ender. He's a better hitter for sure, but Ender is a significantly better defender. They both should be roughly 2-3 WAR players if healthy. It seems like it's making a move just to make a move.
 
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It always seemed to me that the Pederson deal was done strictly as a way to get under the Luxury Tax threshold. Either they've found a way in one of the Betts/Maeda deals to get under it without moving him, or the new Betts/Maeda deals are pushing their payroll past the point where moving Pederson and Stripling won't be enough to get them under the Luxury tax.
 
It is note worthy to mention that Neck was signed on Nov 4th which is before the 5th day after the last World Series game thus nullifying his auto no trade protection given to Free agents signing.
 
It always seemed to me that the Pederson deal was done strictly as a way to get under the Luxury Tax threshold. Either they've found a way in one of the Betts/Maeda deals to get under it without moving him, or the new Betts/Maeda deals are pushing their payroll past the point where moving Pederson and Stripling won't be enough to get them under the Luxury tax.

There's also the fact that they have to trade or waive two players from the 40-man, as it would currently be at 42.
 
This is a good question. Is that deal not done? Seemed like it was independent of the Betts trade.

It was independant of the Betts trade, but it was also contingent on the Betts trade happening. Reports are that the Angels GM got annoyed at waiting on it and took it off the table.
 
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